Archives: July 1999

Ah yes...a great rhythm section with a LIVE drummer and bass player. Get the hint???

Jim...Erie, PA

Mark, I agree that "I Do Believe In You" is a great song. As a matter of fact, I think "Alibi" is full of wonderful songs. It's one of my favorites. I was really surprised to hear a fan who is a regular on this chat folder say that she's never heard the songs on "Alibi". I don't understand how that could be with "Alibi" being so available on CD. I wish there were AMERICA songs that I have yet to hear and are as available as "Alibi". I love the strong drum and bass sound on the album.

I Do Believe In You has always been one of my favorite songs from the Alibi album, it is on my should'a been a single list. But ever since the Columbine tragedy, where that young girl was martyred for her faith, the song has taken on new meaning for me. I have been listening to it a lot recently and I can't listen to it without thinking of her and her couragous stand for what she believed in.

Just wanted to share that.

Riverside. Live. Ok I said I would shut up. I lied.

Count me in as well! I especially love "Wheels" live -- particularly towards the end where Dewey is singing "barking in the canyon" while Gerry sings "those wheels are turning once again." And the opening to Sandman....leaves me breathless...

Well Johnny, a girl can dream, can't she? I have said it before and I will say it again and then I will shut up about it, I think the KSAN concert was recorded. Here in LA most of the radio stations have put out at least one "Live from.." disc . Maybe (hint hint) someone could put out a disc in conjunction with KSAN. Ok I will stop whinning now

Count me in on wanting a Live CD from this tour, also. Seeing that King Biscuit/Oxygen just finished re-packaging their AMERICA Live CD from AMERICA's 1982 concert, I'm guessing that it's probably doubtful that they would provide another Live CD this year. Of course, I'm certainly no authority. It's just an opinion.

I am truely bummed! Ok people, now is the time to ask for that live CD of this tour. PLEASE!!!! I can't ber the only one who thinks that this should be.

Johnny, I knew you would come through with some great natural pairings. Thanks!

It has been a rough week for me both personally and professionally. Thanks.

That's great to hear there'll be a big crowd Saturday. Glad I already have reservations. I'm even bringing my dad this time! Really looking foward to hearing Wheels, Wednesday Morning, and especially Pages...hopefully! Have a great Friday everyone!

Okay, as Robyn suggested, here's my (goofy) natural pairings:

Submarine Ladies, Don't Let It Get You Down; Man's Road, 5th Avenue; Sandman, Tonight Is For Dreamers; Nothing As Far As Yesterday, Tomorrow; Mad Dog, Monster; Hidden Talent, Hideaway; Till The Sun Comes Up Again, Tomorrow; Company, Never Be Lonely; All My Life, And Forever; People In The Valley, Whispering; Survival, It's Life; Political Poachers, Playing God; Hollywood, California Revisited; Can't You See, These Brown Eyes; Last Two To Dance, All Around; What Does It Matter, My Dear; Are You There, Here; Glad To See You, Honey; and You Girl, You Can Do Magic

I'm getting ready to walk out the door for my little camping venture. Before doing so, I need to answer a couple of questions.

Robyn, here's the deal with the elephants. Bertha and Angel are a couple of performing elephants that usually perform at the beginning of every act at the Nugget. They are on a two week vacation this year which happens to fall during the two weeks that America is playing. However, you can see some fantastic pictures of them that were taken last year by going to /america/sdl98.htm on the America Fans web site. Follow the links at the bottom of that page to see even more pictures.

Your second question was about the Irvine concert. Jim is correct that the Irvine show has been canceled. Sorry about that!

And now I'm off to see that Horse With No Name again. Have a great weekend everyone!

NOW I really need a live cd of this tour? Is it possible to BEG? ;)

NO IRVINE SHOW???? BUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shari,
The Coach usually has an opening act for most artists, a comedian or music. The Spectrum gig in Irvine is reported to be canceled. Wasn't sure where they would have played there, but the Crazy Horse is moving there & perhaps that was the place, not sure. The Coach House is always a great show for AMERICA. The HUMAN NATURE tour continues.

I always thought that the pairing of " I Don't Believe In Miracles" and "I Do Believe in You" had a fine sense of irony I have been trying to think of some other natural pairings of America songs. So far,all I can come up with are "Mad Dog" and "Hangover" Can anyone think of other pairings? (Johnny, I am waiting for your answer on this one, you are so good at this sort of thing!)

Who's going to the Coach House show on Saturday, Aug. 7?
We're going to the second show, and at this point have two extra tickets, unless we can find someone down here who wants to go up.
Jim - will they have an opening act for both those shows? If so, hardly gives them time to play the long set, since the shows are at 7:00 and 9:30. I want the long set!!
ALso, has anyone found out anything about the Irvine Spectrum show? Where would they play there?
Wish I could have gone to Sparks. Still trying to convince hubby that 3 times this year is not too many times to see the guys.
Take care, all.
ShariL <><

Ok you guys... It's bad enought to be stuck here in smoggy Los Angeles wishing I were in Reno, but then you HAVE to rub salt in the wounds! Please, for my edification, what's the deal with the elephants?

Look for that BECKLEY/LAMM/WILSON disc, a tremendous effort.

Robert Lamm's latest CD, In My Head has a Gerry Beckley tune called "Watching The Time Go By" which features Gerry Beckley and Carl Wilson. Gerry called me while I was in Reno and we talked about that song as well as the new Beckley/Lamm/Wilson CD which will be coming out soon. Gerry said that the new CD was supposed to be out the end of July but because of some packaging delays the CD wouldn't be out until sometime later (I'm hoping for August). He said that a different version of "Watching The Time Go By" will be included on the new CD. The original version of this song was recorded about 5 years ago but it has since been redone. I can't wait to hear the newest version.

By the way, I'm going camping again today (back to the Horse With No Name sign, skeleton, and car) so I'll be offline for the rest of the week. After I get back, I'll try to get a sound clip of "Watching The Time Go By" on the web site as well as a rare song by David Cassidy and Gerry from 1975 called "Take This Heart". I also have lots more concert photos to put out so there's plenty to look forward to for next week.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

--Steve

Erin,
Yes I hope AMERICA does another HUMAN NATURE triple this weekend. The saturday show will likely be very filled, the pre-sales are supposed to be very strong according to the Nugget's reservationist.
Fortunately or unfortunately, there will be no elephants during the entire AMERICA run. I think they have a pretty strong elephant union.
HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA's latest & greatest release.

How COOL!! Thanks for the update, Jim. Hope we get "three in a row" this weekend....I really wish I could be there this week...By the way, are the elephants still on vacation??

Erin :o)

fyi:
Wednesday nite, 3 in a row, count 'em 3 !
WEDNESDAY MORNING, PAGES & WHEELS. The crowd loved the new songs. Hope these are keepers in the set. HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA's latest. Look for that BECKLEY/LAMM/WILSON disc, a tremendous effort.

Sorry about the spelling in my last subject post-I will write it fifty times.
Take care Joanne

I also believed that Willie was the "Professor" I hope Johnny and I don't flunk out of "America School".But if we do-we'll have some extra time on our hands-Johnny I'll meet you half way-you bring the C.D player and I'll being the C.D's.Johnny-you always answer everyone's post with Class and comedy, Nice touch.
Take care Joanne Meyers

Thanks You Steve.

Nov 12 is the last concert on the list. Does America take a break and does the new 2000 concert list come out after that or will there be more concerts listed?

I don't know the answer to that question Pete, but I believe there will be more concerts added before the year ends. Morey Management keeps me updated with the concert list and all I do is post what they send me.

Great photo!!! What a great live C.D cover or poster that would make for the band. Did you know it was there before you went?????

No, Joanne, I didn't know it was there before I went. But my 8 year old son has talked me into going there again this weekend (ouch, another 4 hour drive to and from the campground) so I'll see if I can get an even better picture.

Regarding the canceled Sag Harbor gig, I haven't heard anything about a replacement concert on the Island. Keep checking the web site for any changes.

Steve, Nov 12 is the last concert on the list. Does America take a break and does the new 2000 concert list come out after that or will there be more concerts listed. Thank you.

FYI Jimnak, according to John Corbett's "Comprehensive History" on AMERICA, Part 3, paragraph 3: "Leacox, the only member of the group to have received a degree in music (he is affectionately call "The Professor")....

I'll let you and John debate that one!

Cathy, great photos!

Hi All
Steve, Great photo!!! What a great live C.D cover or poster that would make for the band.Did you know it was there before you went????? It looks like a beautiful place even with the fellow in the car.Here on Long Island we have really high car Insurance sometimes people look like that Horse after they get their Insurance bills.I was hoping for the Sag Harbour date- do you know if they will try somewhere else on the Island???I hope everyones Summer is going well.Thanks Steve for your great Photos -It keeps this stay at home working Mom happy.......
Take care Joanne Meyers

P.S to Johnny:How was your High School Reunion????? Joanne

America Fan, Cathy McAleer, has posted some photos from the Barnstable Fair concert in Cape Cod, Massachusetts on July 20. It might take a few minutes for the photos to display using a modem connection but Cathy's working on compressing them so they'll download faster in the future. Thanks for the great photos Cathy!

fyi Johnny:
AMERICA's former guitar tech Doug Suman is known as the "professor."
Doug was a long standing crew member who once filled in on bass for a bunch of shows. By the way the professor's band will open for AMERICA'S 2nd show at the Coach House in San Juan Capistrano, California in August. AMERICA does 2 full shows there, I believe it's on a Saturday. This is a great set of shows if you can make it. The HUMAN NATURE tour continues on a very successful march onto the millenium. WEDNESDAY MORNING, WHEELS, PAGES !

Steve, that "Horse With No Name" sign was such an incredible conincidence! The horse skeleton was too much!! So that's what happened to that poor ol' horse with no name. Also, no "Wheels Are Turning" on that rusty heap of metal.

Yes, best wishes to "The Professor" and his lovely bride, Susan!!!

Hi Everyone! You all know that I was in Reno this past weekend but the weekend before that I was with a group of Scouts at Wheeler Peak near the Utah-Nevada border. We all made the 5 hour trek from our campground (at 9,950 feet) to the peak (at 13,060 feet) and then 3 hours back down. The funny part was when we returned home we passed by a sign in a field that said "Horse With No Name". I had to stop and look because 100 yards behind the sign was an old, rusty car with a horse skeleton sitting behind the wheel with one hoof on the steering wheel. I've got a picture of me standing next to the sign and the scouts and their leaders in front of the car. You can click on the links below to see the photos:

Me standing by the "Horse With No Name" sign
The Scouts and their leaders in front of the car

Thanks for letting me share!

--Steve

P.S. I appreciate all of your "thank yous". I'm glad I could help.

First I want to thank Steve Lowry for posting my message. I also want to thank everyone who e-mailed me supporting getting America into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I have written everyone back and I hope to hear from many more people. I have joined the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and I will find out more details about how the induction process works. I will pass on this information so that we can formulate a strategy and do what we need to do to get the greatest rock band right where they belong. I can be reached at rburgess@carramerica.com THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE

STEVE, THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE. I TRIED 'DAISY JANE' AND 'SIMPLE LIFE' FROM "HEARTS". THE STRANGE THING IS, MY REAL PLAYER WORKS WHEN I GO THROUGH AMAZON.COM AND UBL. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THOUGHTSCAPE. REAL PLAYER ERROR "23" COMES UP. THANKS STEVE. KM

Howdy America Fans,

This is the first chance I have had to post since returning from Reno this weekend. MAN, what an incredible 4 days. I am still geeked! Steve, thanks buddy for getting my T-shirt signed. I got to see three wonderful shows and meet some wonderful people. Steve and Janell, we really enjoyed your company (these are two of the nicest people you could possibly meet). Also Sally, Lauren, Louise, Bill, Dave and Erin....it was a pleasure to have got to know you and sit with you at the Sat. show. You have heard the phrase "walking on cloud 9" well I am walking on "cloud one million". I got to talk to Dewey, Gerry, Willie and Brad. Dewey was extremely friendly because he had won 3,000 bucks on a dollar slot machine about 5 minutes before I talked to him. He gracioulsy signed a bunch of CD's for me. What a weekend, next year we are gonna' do the Planet Hollywood get together again and this time I will be better prepared. I will have plenty of America CD's and Videos to be played while we are there. I am sure that next year the guys will show will be able to show up. I promise, next year will be bigger and better.

Well i have to go, but I am seriously considering attending the shows in Bettendorf, IA on Aug. 13 and 14. If anybody is planning on attending these shows, please e-mail me and maybe we can get together.

Later,

Gary H

Congratulations on your marriage. May you have many wonderful years together! Thank you so much for allowing us to share in your day with the photos. I feel honored. Thank you.

I feel like a tennis ball on a crowded court at Wimbledon (going back and forth). First the Sag Harbor concert is on, then it's off, then it's on, ... well now it's off again. And, according to Morey Management it is off for good. The booking agent called them last night and told them that the negotiations have fallen through so I'll be removing the August 28th show at Sugar Reef from the concert list. Morey Management asked me to pass along their apologies for the confusion. --Steve

Ken, what songs are you trying to play? Most of the sound clips that I created for the old albums are not Real Audio clips -- they are WAVE files that need to be downloaded and then played using whatever WAVE file player you have on your computer. The Real Audio clips always have a little, blue "notes" icon by them.

If you can tell me the specific songs you're trying to play, I can tell you for sure whether or not they're Real Audio clips.

--Steve

P.S. I played the Real Audio clip of "Daisy Jane" from the Hearts CD without any problem so I know it works for me.

I TRIED TO PLAY SOME SONGS FROM SEVERAL OLD ALBUMS, AND COULDN'T GET "REAL PLAYER" TO WORK. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY PROBLEMS? THANKS. KM

HEY HEY !!! Way to to go Willie~ I think this is wonderful & may you have many happy years ahead of you! GREAT photos ,Willie's bride is a very lovely woman !! by the way everyone looked good & I really liked the pics of Dewey & Gerry, They always look good! Dam it !! so Bon Voyage to the single life willie, I hope you are very happy!!-Love, JOYCE HALL --:)

Congratulations, Willie & Susan wishing you many years together.
Thanks Steve for the great photos.
Take care, Joanne Meyers

Hey, Joe. Here are my sixteen favorite America love songs:

1. Three Roses
2. Clarice
3. Submarine Ladies
4. Molton Love
5. Willow Tree Lullaby
6. Old Virginia
7. Don't Cry Baby
8. Sarah
9. These Brown Eyes
10. All My Life
11. Right Back To Me
12. Valentine
13. You Girl
14. My Dear
15. Young Moon
16. Whispering

Beautiful photos! Thanks so much for sharing them, and many congratulations to Willie and Susan!!

Erin :o)

congratulations Willie!
Thanx for the wonderful photos Steve!

The photos from Willie and Susan's wedding have been posted on the America Fans web site. I think you'll enjoy them. I have lots more concert photos to post and I'll get them out as quickly as I can (but it may take a couple of weeks). --Steve

Figures!! Last year I missed "FAMT" and "Pages" by one night. This year it's "Pages" and "Three Roses".

Oh WOW!! I knew I'd be missing something great tonight. Hopefully Pages and Three Roses will still be in next weekend....I hope everyone had a great time...I've been playing Van Go Gan all night here at work!

Erin :o)

AMERICA at the Nugget in Sparks:
Monday nite they did PAGES, WEDNESDAY MORNING, WHEELS & added THREE ROSES. What a nite & what a way to surprise the Monday evening crowd. HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA'S latest & greatest.

I thought so too, Johnny. I took the logo sticker off the shrink wrap and pasted it to the front ( rather artistically, I might add!) Placed it at a rather rakish angle in the top corner. Did anyone else do something like that?

Had an unusual America encounter this weekend. My daughter was watching a movie, "It Takes Two" starring those sterling thespians, the Olsen Twins. Suddenly,she says, "Mom that's America music." I made her rewind. Sure enough, Kirstie Alley is butchering "A Horse with no Name" Just a snippet, really. I thought it was funny my daughter noticed it-glad she knows and appreciates good music.

AS for favorite love songs? In no particular order.... Three Roses, All My Life, Submarine Ladies, Head and Heart, Only on your Heart, Sarah, Sgt Darkness,Right before your eyes, Sleeper Train .

That's allI can think of for now!

On VenturaHighway.com's "From The Moving Train", Dewey says Gary Burden designed the official AMERICA logo for the "Holiday" album. I had always thought it was designed by Phil Hartman. Did anyone else think the same as me? I thought I read it here on the chat folder, as well. Also, I noticed that my "Hearts" album had the logo sticker on the wrapper of the album. I've noticed other "Hearts" albums had the logo printed directly on the cover. For the longest time, I had the "Holiday" logo on the back window of my car.

Tery Holly sent me the following information about the August 12 Wyoming Festival concert. Thanks Tery!

"The venue is Lamarr Park in Wyoming, where the Wyoming Fest is being held. You can order tickets through 'Tickets Plus' at 1-800-585-3737. The only price I got was for reserved (there's the bring-your-blanket-seating, too....) - it's $12."

Well...another GREAT show tonight (sunday). Same set as last night, Wheels Are Turning and Wednesday Morning just get better and better! Willie's dad did a terrific job filling in for him on Horse! WONDERFUL job guys, thanks so much for a great weekend. And thanks again for the picks and autographs!! Also to everyone who was at the fan gathering, it was really great to meet all of you, and I hope we can do it again next year with even more people!

Erin :o)

Here's some information from Ginny about the Fairfax concert. Thanks Ginny!

"I finally got some info on the show........accidentally! Someone that my husband works with asked if he was going to the show. Seems that the fire dept was calling people trying to sell the tickets! LOL They never called me! The number to call is 703-212-9760. Looks like it is a $15 donation per ticket. They send you a voucher that you have to redeem for an actual ticket starting on 9-20-99. There will still be service charges at the Ticket Master outlets, but no extra charges at the Patriot Center Box office. I was planning on calling tomorrow for mine."

I just got home from Reno and had a great time. I'll say more about it tomorrow when my eyes are working better, but here's a quick report.

Janell and I arrived Friday night just about the same time that the concert started. It took a little while to get checked in and get my bags to my room and then I hustled down to the stage. I was lucky enough to watch the show from the side of the stage starting with the fourth song, "Daisy Jane". Willie's fiance' was back there, too, and I got to meet her along with many of Willie's relatives. The guys were in great form, especially Willie, who was doing his last gig as a bachelor. I'll have some wedding pictures in a few days.

On Saturday I attended the America Fans get together at Planet Hollywood and we had a great time. We talked, ate, and enjoyed Human Nature being played over the sound system. Besides me and Janell, the following fans attended: Gary (thanks for setting it up), Laura (it was her birthday), Sally (and her three children), Lauren (Sally's sister), Erin (SgtDrkness), Dave (SandmanDJ), and Louise (with her daughter). Prior to the get together Gerry called me on the phone and reiterated that he wanted to be there but because of Willie's wedding, he wouldn't be able to make it. We had a great time visiting and hope to make this an annual affair. I'll have some photos later on.

By the way, Willie's wedding was by the river (I believe) and during the ceremony Gerry and Dewey played "Three Roses completely unplugged and without microphones. From what I was told it sounded fantastic and really added to the ceremony.

Saturday night I attended the concert with Gary, Laura, Erin, Dave, Sally, Laura, and Bill (Bass). Barbara Bickmore and her friend, Marsha, were sitting next to us. We thoroughly enjoyed the concert sitting on the front row. "Wheels" and "Wednesday Morning" are great additions to the songlist although I would have liked to have heard "FAMT" and "Pages" live at least once.

I'll say more later and get the pictures out as soon as I can. I've also received lots of photos from other concerts over the weekend and I'll ge them out as soon as I can.

--Steve

P.S. This is what Erin had to say about the concert: "Well, I'm very happy to report that tonight's show at the Nugget in Sparks was AWESOME. The guys were incredible, as usual. The set list included Wednesday Morning and Wheels Are Turning which both sound absolutely AMAZING live. Also the fan gathering at Planet Hollywood was a lot of fun, and hopefully, will be a yearly event. What else can I say...it was a perfect day. I hope everyone is having a great weekend."

an unassisted triple play by Joe Knight - just kidding Joe

Terrific show. The Palace was a wonderful place to see and hear
America.After seeing America live at the Olympics in Atlanta
the band has become my favorite group of all time. My top
albums are Holiday [better than any Beatles album],Hourglass[best
song Sleeper Train] and Human Nature [awesome song-Wheels Are
Turning featuring great 'road' lyrics such as You are the needle
on the compass for certain/ The missing map has come back to
your door" America always inspires"to roll down this never ending
trail"-Alan Wind

My list would probably be similar to everyone elses, but here are my choices
Dewey.....#1 Can't fall asleep to a lullibye (I have felt that kind of pain) and #2 Molten Love( the coolest love song ever)
Gerry..... #1 Sargent Darkness....#2 Never Be Lonely ( great live song............Joe K

My list would probably be similar to everyone elses, but here are my choices
Dewey.....#1 Can't fall asleep to a lullibye (I have felt that kind of pain) and #2 Molten Love( the coolest love song ever)
Gerry..... #1 Sargent Darkness....#2 Never Be Lonely ( great live song............Joe K

My list would probably be similar to everyone elses, but here are my choices
Dewey.....#1 Can't fall asleep to a lullibye (I have felt that kind of pain) and #2 Molten Love( the coolest love song ever)
Gerry..... #1 Sargent Darkness....#2 Never Be Lonely ( great live song............Joe K

I hope all you guys going to the fans gathering In Reno are going to take your cameras!!!! Please tkae plenty of photos and post them on the folder here!!!!!!!!......Joe Knight

Why not BOTH a live CD and a next release? Talking about live CD's, I heard King Biscuit's "AMERICA" live CD for the first time just a couple of weeks ago. As most of you probably already know, it was recorded in 1982. I really like the lighthearted banter of Dewey and Gerry. It really adds to the overall warmth of the CD. I especially like how Dewey kids around about how he divides people into categories of "friendly and unfriendly". I also like how Gerry jokingly pronounces Dewey's last name like "tunnel" but with a "b". By the way, that CD has a new cover and booklet featuring a collage of photos and memorabilia. The front cover features a gray horse walking across a NYC street with its head framed by an art easel. It's quite unique looking to say the least.

I read an article in today's local newspaper that featured a story about a neighborhood friend of mine and her husband. It talked about a song that they had recently written that was recorded by another person. I've never heard of the singer before; nevertheless, it's one song of many sung by a mixture of singers. The CD/cassette's title really caught my attention. It's called "America". So beware, it has nothing to do with "Our Guys" or any of their songs. Why it's given that title, I'm not sure.

My favorite AMERICA love ballads most definitely would include "Jody" and "The Last Two To Dance".

Yup I can see WHEELS becoming a mainstay, perhaps like NEVER BE LONELY. Both rock down the house in dramatic form. Let's hope.

there are many aspects to love, many phases. That said, here's my 16:
(in alphabetical, to be diplomatic) :
All My Life ....... And Forever ....... Can't Fall Asleep to a Lullabye ....... Clarice ....... Daisy Jane ....... Love on the Vine ....... Molten Love ....... One in a Million ....... Rainy Day ....... Sergeant Darkness ....... Sleeper Train ....... Three Roses ....... Whole Wide World ....... World Alone ....... You Girl ....... Young Moon.
Can't say I have a #1, but Molten Love is speaking to me the loudest at the moment.....

Daisy Jane/ I Need You/ All My Life/ Sargeant Darkness/ Sarah/ Submarine Ladies/ Bell Tree/ Glad To See You/ Fifth Avenue/ Who Loves You/ Clarice/ Three Roses/ Till The Sun Comes Up Again/ One In A Million/ Moment To Moment/ You Girl.............................My Personal Choice for the Number One Love Song Is..."All My Life" Hey Joe B. Groovy question! Thanx, TeeTee

Hello and good luck to those of you about to see a show or two by the guys. Hope you have fun at the fans gathering!

Anyway, I just wanted to share this moment I had at the mall. I was rushing to my internet class when I heard a song that stopped me in my tracks. I looked around and looked for the source - and there it was! A stall selling bamboo flutes. As part of its promotion, a sound system was set up and a flutist plays along with popular tunes. At that moment, he was playing along with "Inspector Mills"! I know...I heard that song a million times! Still, it caught me offguard. It was just so beautiful. A pleasant surprise amidst the crowd at the mall. I stayed around, pretending to look at the flute display, and what do you know? I noticed that a lot of people started doing the same. Of course, I might be biased bec. I'm a fan, but it really did happen. That America tune is very popular here in Manila so it wouldn't be impossible that it attracted a lot of interest for the flute stall.

Anyway...it was a lovely moment - one that just has to take the place of a real show for now.

YES-Please!

Hey You People,

Sorry for the delay. We had a power meltdown here during the current heatwave and I was unable to post for a few days. Nothing like a heat index of 110 and no AC. (I'll bet you miss this Jimnak) Howard, you are correct sir regarding the trivia. I was referring to the "Holiday" combo of "What Does It Matter" & "In The Country" I also will be keep any obscure/bizarre trivia questions to myself in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

Peace
Joe B

P.S. Your next assignment is to come up with a list of America's 16 best love songs for a new compilation CD. None of this "They're All Good" garbage or "There's More Than 16" business. Come up with a list of exactly 16 best love songs and do it now!!!!!!

OK!!!!!! I want a live CD ,preferably a 2 or 3 CD set with all of their live stuff on it .Come on Gerry and Dewey. Please give us " LIVE " ................................Joe Knight

Let's forget about the next single and start screaming 4 a live CD. Now that would really rock!!!!!!!

I TOLD YOU GUYS THAT "WHEELS" SHOULD BE THE NEXT SINGLE (IF THERE IS ONE) IT REALLY ROCKS LIVE!!! HAVE A GOOD TIME AT THE RENO FANS GATHERING. I WISH I COULD GO BUT ITS TOO FAR AWAY. MAYBE NEXT YEAR I CAN GET CHEAP SEATS WITH PRICELINE .COM LOL .... JOE K

It's just my luck! Last year I attended the Reno concerts and the day after I left they started playing "From A Moving Train" and "Pages". I had hoped to hear those songs live but I never got to. I'm heading to Reno tonight for the Saturday show (and fan gathering at Planet Hollywood) and it looks like they've stopped playing "FAMT" and "Pages". Oh well. At least I'll get to hear "Wheels" and "Wed. AM" live. However, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they'll play all 4 (and maybe even throw in "Moment to Moment").

Have a nice weekend everyone. I plan to. --Steve

Sounds great !
AMERICA's has been playing WHEELS & WEDNESDAY MORNING in Reno. WHEELS is a slamming great song, it really rocks the house. WEDNESDAY MORNING w/the support of both GERRY (acoustic) & MICHAEL (electric)on 12 string guitars, this song glides along w/the greatest of ease, really fabulous live. Hope you all can catch these this year, live.
HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA'S latest & greatest.

Well, we've begun to pack for our 4000 mile return trip to see America in Paso Robles on August 5. Leave on Sunday. Got the aircon fixed today, have my lineup of America tapes ready ( got the Dewey tape, the Gerry tape, the Dan tape, the 70s' tape, the 80s tape, the 90's tape, the live tape...) (I also figure the trip's gonna cost about $4000 with motel costs, exchange rates, a couple of days at Disneyland for the kids, etc.etc.etc.OUCH!) But I know it's going to be worth it. So, I'll be able to add my own concert review once we get back rather than just experience them vicariously through the rest who have been fortunate enough to hit a concert on this tour.

re. Hall of Fame... America is a natural.

Take care everyone

John

That is great ! Let's all support this effort !

America fan, Robert Burgess has been writing to me recently about getting America inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He has been spreading the word on the Web about America in the HOF and I have offered to help him get the word out. He would like to start a petition which he'll send in to the powers that be at the HOF. If any of you would like to be a part of this petition, you can send Robert e-mail or snail mail. His e-mail address is rburgess@carramerica.com and his home address is:

19421 Kildonan Drive
Gaithersburg, MD 20879

Robert is going to find out who sits on the board and try to contact them in the next few months after he gets every America fan involved. He looks forward to meeting all of us at the induction of America! Way to go, Robert! We're all behind you!

SL:
YOUR WELCOME !!

Maureen.

Thanks for the info, Maureen.

Hi all,
Anyone interested in the Sugar Reef show here is their
telephone number 516-725-7500, ask to speak to 'Robert'.
It is located on Eastern End Long Island near 'The Hamptons'.
Only and hour and 20 min from my house. I haven't been there
but I believe it is a bar/restaurant type place.This will be
my 4th show with the guys this year. Hotel room availability
is slim to none unless you want to pay about $300 a night. Hay,
its the hamptons. Well, feel free to email me and we can maybe hook
up. Please forgive me if I don't email you back right away!!

Take Care. Maureen.

Looking forward to meeting you, Gary. I can't make a show until Saturday night (couldn't get off work this year.) I hope to see lots of you at Planet Hollywood!
Erin :o)

Just wanted to say welcome back to Reno/Sparks guys!! Looking forward to two great weeks....see ya Saturday night!
Erin :o)

Oh well....it was a nice thought anyway. Thanks for the info, Steve.
Erin :o)

just a cameo..have enjoyed "keeping up" with the folder. glad to see that so many of you are attending concerts and having a fun summer. As I have said before, you're the best. Thanks again for the kind e-mails and well wishes. :)

In post #7438 Maggie indicated that America would be playing at the Lake Tahoe Summer Music Festival. Since it wasn't on my schedule I called them up and found out that there will be music performed about America (the country) but not by America (the band). Sorry about that for those of you in the Tahoe area.

Here's a message I received today. It says quite a bit about "our" boys:

We saw America in concert for the very first time on July 3rd in Bowie, Maryland and it was an amazing show. I have seen just about all of the big groups in concert (U2, Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen) and the America concert in my opinion was right up there in terms of a truly fine performance. --Stacy"

Where? When? I didn't know they were coming to Sag Harbor. More details please!

August 28, Sugar Reef, Sag Harbor, NY. Maureen can probably give you more information such as the phone number of Sugar Reef because I'm fairly certain that she called them when America was originally scheduled to play there. For specific information about the concert, it would be best to call the venue (Sugar Reef). And please, if anyone finds out anymore information, please post it here. Thanks! --Steve

Howdy America Fans,

Well it's Wednesday afternoon and I am packing for a long awaited 4 day weekend in Reno/Sparks Nevada with our beloved band. We will depart for Reno early Thursday morning and arrive about noon. We plan on catching three shows, Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. When I originally booked these reservations with the Nugget Casino a few months back, the lady handling the reservations just could not understand why I would want to see three consecutive shows. She kept saying "but it's the same show each night, are you sure you want to do this, we have a matinee that features a very nice Vegas style variety show"? I said "lady, if I have to explain this to you, then you probably wouldn't understand"?.

Anyway, for those of you who will be attending the Planet Hollywood fan gathering, I have confirmed that things are all set up and everything is still a "go" for Saturday, July 24 at 1:00PM. I am looking forward to meeting all of you.

Well, I have to finish packing. I will have my laptop with me at Reno and I will try to post something concerning the Reno shows.


Thanks,

Gary H

Maureen,
In reference to Sugar Reef, how far is it????
where is it??? Email me please. thanks, Howard

Where? When? I didn't know they were coming to Sag Harbor. More details please!

Alice

Yes, Maureen, the Sugar Reef concert is back on again. I received a confirmation from Morey Management yesterday explicitly stating that they would be playing in Sag Harbor. As Jimmy Stewart used to say, "all I know is what I read in the papers", or in my case, what the agency sends to me. --Steve

Hi Steve,
Ok, whats the deal. Is the Sugar Reef back on AGAIN? I am confused. Please help and thanks. I have some info from the Friar Tuck. I'll email you directly, later. Ok. See ya.

Maureen.

I agree with Robyn. The King Biscuit In Concert CD is from Labor Day weekend of 1982. I listen to it a lot, but let's face it, that was a long time ago. I've been to two concerts this tour. The new material is great and well received, the audiences have been very enthusiastic, and Dewey and Gerry's rapport with the audience is terrific. AND, the old hits sound better than ever. It's time for a live CD.

So-say it happens. Before the tour ends, a live recording (AND video, of course!) is made. It would be fun to have a CD naming contest right here. Maybe Steve could put a ballot on his page and everyone could submit his/her suggestion. The final decision would be made by Dewey and Gerry and the winner gets a signed copy of the CD.
OK-dream on...Does anyone else have any input? Surely Robyn, Bones, and I aren't the only ones clammering after a HN live CD.

Joe: My answers would have been the same as Howard's, as I know we take pride in knowing of those harmonica parts. Are possibly filling in for Johnny during his absence and therefore this is a trick(y) question?

joe, do you mean one song on each side of the lp, or
one right after the other. please help.

How about Holiday lp:
Lonely People/In THe country
????
or
What does it matter/In The Country????
I Give if this is not it.
from HL

Frigorific ? A new refrigerator from Humana ? from Whirlpool ?

Howard & You People,

That's not it. Once again - name 2 songs that appear consecutively on an album - each/both features harmonica.

Peace
Joe B

P.S. Your word of the day -frigorific- and no, it's not a swear word.

Just reading the folder this afternoon and, felt compelled to comment on this well written reivew from Randy. Your very kind Randy and, you hit the nail on the head when you wrote.....>> "But you see, it's all in a day's work for America. But to perform so flawlessly day after day, speaks volumes for the work ethic and the talents that these great musicians have"<<, says it ALL !!

The guy's have been on the road now for at least some 40 day's (give or take a few), and have at least another 30 (give or take a day or two).

It's probably the hardest career anyone could be into. I have alot of admiration for the whole band (as I know you all do too)!!! As Randy put it with great perfection and I quote him again....>>"Thankyou for being the class act that you are"<<!

America.... thankyou for not only doing this for yourselves, but for all of us that enjoy your music....we know it's not easy!

Again thanks for your Review Randy and, to all the other's that keep us posted on America's concerts....thankyou tooooo !!

I know I have been excited about the idea of a live CD from this tour. How about the rest of you? Would you buy one or two? (I would probably buy at least two, one as a gift-maybe more) This tour is fantastic! Having it on CD will be GREAT!

My husband and I really enjoyed the concert. Staying the night at the Inn was another story though. We met some really great people that night - Barb, Sue, Tom, Dave & Debbie - that had some fun stories about their past America concert experiences. They made waiting in line to get in go by so very fast. I won't go into the songs that were performed cause everyone here knows which ones were played. All that I will say is that the crowd went wild. The only small flaw was that at the end 3 women climbed upon chairs and would have bared all for Dewey if they could have. Just a little juvenile. After the concert Gerry spent about 10 minutes speaking with a group of us about him buying back the rights to Van Gogh Van (sp?) and rereleasing it later this year and about a new CD released this month by Beckley, Lamm and Wilson. Gerry was casual, relaxed and very interesting. He gave hugs to all us women. Dewey signed autographs but retreated to the bus soon after.
My husband still can't get over that these guys are so warm and appreciative towards their fans.

Thanks Steve! I have a degree in English. I have to use it SOMEWHERE!

Robyn, it seems like every time I read one of your posts I have to pull out my dictionary to look up at least one of the words you use. Yesterday it was "nubile" and today it is "Teutonic". I guess that's to be expected from someone who works in the library. My hat is off to you for your great knowledge of the English language. Perhaps you should start a Word For The Day post to help the rest of us try to learn more words (or is it just me?). Keep 'em coming!

Just got my cd copy of Hat Trick. I had forgotten what a great album that is! HOWEVER I was reading the lyric sheet included with it and I must say, I have been hearing the lyrics to Hat Tricks WRONG all these years ( MY TONGUE IS PLANTED FIRMLY IN CHEEK HERE) The lyrics listed in the booklet, perhaps transcibed by someone unfamiliar with English idioms, inclued "ooh, can I make it moan" and "I saw that you were dancing in a rented gown." "Lving under Rose berry topping " and ' my personal favorite " you are running from the ring of the golden bell like a man out of rope".

This is a German Import. Who says we Teutonic people have no sense of humor? I am ROFLMHO!

Hey Joe, answer is ???
Album: Hat Trick
Songs: Rainbow Song into Submarine Ladies

HL

What can one say, they were great and very tight on the music. Got to talk to Gerry in the early afternoon when we got there. He gave my wife a guitar pick and that made her happy. Maureen, did'nt get to see you but with all the people there dancing and screaming it was hard to see anyone. Hope they will be there next year, great place for a concert and the people really went wild. Same play list as most of all the other concerts. All I can say they were great. Pete

Hey You People,

Name the only 2 America songs to feature harmonica that run back to back on their original album. I just noticed this the other day and felt it was so bleeping fascinating that I had to share it with the entire class. Good Luck!

Peace
Joe B

P.S. No hints...sorry.

Did anyone in the eastern time zone catch any of the concert at Jamboree in the hills? It was on WWVA 1170 am Wheeling West Va. yesterday. I don't know how many songs were played but I caught it in time to record the last five songs. 1. Lonely People 2. Never be lonely 3. Sandman 4. Sister golden hair 5. Horse with no name

I had no luck in contacting radio stations concerning the concert as it was the weekend and the offices were closed. ...So I got my portable radio out, started going through the stations and sure enough there was America. ...I should have called the radio stations during the week then I'd have known and could've taped the whole thing. Jeff Brink

Hi all
FRIAR TUCK was fabulous, wasn't it!! The guys sounded EXCELLANT!! I think they were having alot of fun!!

The crowd was out of control. People were dancing on chairs, tables !!

Sorry we didn't get together. Take Care.

Maureen.

I agree with you - I love their 80's music. I'd add "Inspector Mills" and "You Could've Been the One" to the list. I've never heard them do "Survival" in concert but I bet it would be awesome.

DId you say you DID get a response from Gerry regarding a live cd from this tour? What was it?

So. All the family had gathered for a RARE family reunion with ALL of us there. One branch of the family had gathered out on the porch and was ruminating about "today's" music with their 3 teenage sons and prepubecsent daughter. Mom had come up to them and asked about the Wyoming Festival (Aug. 12th, in Michigan. That branch of the family lives there) and if they knew about tix and stuff. She mentioned that America was going to play and how WE all wanted to go (all 8 of us). The boys were HILARIOUS. "America? Didn't they do "Take It To The Limit?" "America? Weren't they with Shania Twain once?"

Needless to say they got a "History" lesson from me. Luckily their Mom's favorite song is HWNN, so it wasn't TOO hard....lol. I guess I didn't feel TOO bad, because I had to inform one of the boys that the song "Get Away" was done by Lenny Kravitz.....lol. (He didn't believe me--roflmao)

Yeah, we had "discussions" about that in the "other" folder, I guess it was left at the "I'll get back to you on that one" stage.....It sure is a GREAT song (only "Heard" it once, though) and would SURELY be anxious to have ANY input on whether it would see the light of day again.......

Some folks, no matter how famous or what family they come from, are of the sort where they'll still stop to talk to a "stranger" who knows of them. The "stranger" may have been been touched by an artistic work of theirs that became world-known, or influenced by the knowledge that this person was born and raised in the public eye, but did not choose to ride on the coattails. Some folks, regardless of popularity or financial roots, don't let it go to their head, and they try in their own way to contribute to the rest of us. Whether it's through art, music, or journalism, or merely by example that they will never exploit their position, earned or not, their message of having no message at all sometimes speaks louder than all the other static we're subjected to constantly. I also realize that another family has twice the grief, not to mention the daily tragedies we never hear about.

I would have liked to shake his hand one day.

What can one say, they came to the Catskills, they played, they rocked the house, they said good night, they drove away. I could sit there 100 more time and still leave the show shaking my head and saying, THESE GUYS ARE REALLY GOOD !!!!!!!! What a show. Once again, Riverside and Never be Lonely were my favorites. Thought Dewey sounded really great on Pages along with everything else he sings. Gerry, well we all know what Gerry does - excellent. Brad, Willie and Woodz, all excellent. Had a short conversation with Gerry after the show, asked for a live CD at the end of the year. Did get a response from him. My fingers are crossed. Over all, the second time around was just as good as the first time back in May and I have to see them again before this tour comes to an end. What a great show these guys put on. The crowd really went nuts for Sister Golden Hair.

Just got back to Greenwich Village from last night's Friar Tuck Inn Concert in Catskill, N.Y. AMERICA put on an incredible 90 minute show that had the crowd (including my girlfriend Amanda and I) on our feet by show's end (Sister, Everyone I Meet & Horse) There was no opening act (oh, darn! =) so it was wall to wall AMERICA. About 21 songs were played. The highlights for me were ANOTHER TRY & WEDNESDAY MORNING. Amanda's favorite was the incredible electrifying performance of SANDMAN. This was her first AMERICA concert ever after listening to years of my going on and on about the greatness! Despite the fact that the bus was waiting for the long trip to Ohio, as usual Gerry & Dewey graciously stopped for photos and conversation! AMERICA remains my favorite band EVER!!! ROCK ON!!!

Just once I'd like to hear "Pigeon Son." And "My Dear."

KevinS.

Sure, we all have the personal faves we'd like to hear. But then the guys would wind up doing 4 hour "Springsteenathons" (how 'bout THAT word?) They HAVE to play the hits of course, and there would be "you know what" to pay if "Sandman" wasn't there. And often their stage time is limited. But yeah, with such a huge catalog of songs a few "left of center" choices would definitely be welcomed. (BTW, anything happening with A&E "Live By Request"?) I'm sure there would be enough in the audience to appreciate them. My choices:..."Today's the Day"(which WAS a rather sizeable Adult Contemporary hit in its day)..."Sgt Darkness"..."Greenhouse"..."All Night"..."She's A Liar"..."Baby It's Up To You"..."Midnight". Better stop now, this will get wind up too long.

Jim Erie, PA

Hey guys I'm back!!! The concert was awesome!! (short but awsome). I didn't try to keep up with the set list but with afew exceptions it was the same songs they have been doing. The Palace is a beautiful place!!! As the curtain began to rise the announcer said Ladies and Gentleman lets have a warm welcome for....AMERICA. Riverside was being played even before the curtain rose. They played hard and fast trying to get as many songs in as they could. It was the fastest hour of my life.....America is the greatest. My only disappointment was tthat they played first and Air Supply got the long set. We stayed for Air Supply and although they are a good band, they are not my cup of tea.All in All though, it was a great concert. And we are going to see them again in Sept in Salem Va......America Rules..... Joe Knight
Also!!!!!! We met NSCRick (screen name) Rick came up and we talked for a while. A new internet friendship has begun!!!!! Maybe we should form an internet committee to great America at their concerts...Just a thought.....JK

...Only caught the last 4 or 5 songs. I could'nt find my am antenna for my reciever and the sound quality was so so...I tried to contact the radio station earlier this morning about whether they were
going to carry jamboree in the hills but could'nt get through....I should've been better prepared.

jb

It's on now. 12:00 noon. don't know how much I've missed...they're playing Sandman as I speak......


jeff brink

It's 11:50 eastern time....anyone interested and can recieve WWVA 1170 on the am dial can listen to the America concert at jam in the hills. It's a wheeling West Virginia station.


jeff brink

Greetings from Wichita, Kansas.

I have a couple of questions for Dewey and Gerry that I tried to submit on the VenturaHighway.com page, but no luck.

First, what tune do each of you consider to be your best work?

Second, what is the worst? (I know, strange question but I'm curious)

Third, what tune do each of you currently enjoy performing the most?

I keep looking at the gig list to see if there is anywhere I can fudge a trip and drag my copilot to see America in concert. Looks like the next candidate is Orem, Utah. Can somebody pick us up at the Provo airport??

Cheers to all in the folder, and to the greatest musicians a fan could hope for...Gerry, Dewey, Brad, Michael and Willie...hope I get to meet all of you SOMEDAY...!! lol

Wayne...aka Jetman

That makes more sense. But still, gotta love the '80s!

john

John,I think that the fans at Rockfest know America for their 70's hits.What I meant was that the majority of the other groups were quite popular in the 80's.However,Thursday's offerings at Rockfest actually made that day a "70's Day".America was followed by Blue Oyster Cult and Lynyrd Skynyrd - both of which gained fame in the 70's.

I USED to be good at math. I meant TWO Capitol songs in the current set...

john

Also, with regard to the Rockfest concert, if the crowd knew mainly '80s songs, then I don't know how they would have responded to America's set. Currently they have only three songs from their entire Capitol period in the set, "You Can Do Magic" and "Never Be Lonely." Even "All My Life" has been dropped. Many America fans, myself included, love their '80s material every bit as much as their big hits from the '70s. Just once, I'd like to hear "The Border," "Survival," "Right Before Your Eyes," or "Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullaby" live. It's almost as if the '70s America is alive and well, but the '80s version has broken up.

john

Randy, point well taken. It's hard when "your" group also belongs to more casual fans who don't know anything but the hits. As America's reservoir of songs grows larger over the years, this problem becomes more acute. Perhaps America could cash in on a growing trend -- double-CD compilations of live material. You know, you play a different long-lost live song in each concert over a few months, and they all get compiled together to create a kind of live anthology. If any group should do this, America is that group. They have TWO greatest hits CDs, and yet their live CDs never seem to exceed 14 tracks, and the 1985 In Concert CD only had a meager ten tracks. Outside of the "Horse With No Name" video CD, no other America concert album even has any Dan Peek songs.

john

Happy Birthday to Woodz. All the best in everything.

John,I'm glad that you liked my review.Thank you for letting me know.After reading the playlists and looking at what's on the live albums,I've also pondered about the choice of songs for concerts.There probably are several variables which influence those decisions.America played at Rockest in Cadott last year.I can say with certainty that the crowd there was mainly interested in the "hits". That's OK too.Many of the bands playing at Rockfest achieved popularity in the 1980's.Most fans there don't really know that much of America's "History".Anyhow,Seargent Darkness is one of their songs that they do so well "Live" but doesn't fit into the "hit" category.It's sort of like Never Be Lonely.I have my own wish list as well.It includes Cornwall Blank,Today's the Day,Greenhouse,Pages,FAMT and Rainbow to name just a few.With almost 200 songs to your credit,the guys play only about one-tenth of them in concert.I'm not disappointed for what's not played,just grateful for what is played.

Randy, your review was great. Nice to hear an Hourglass song in the set, isn't it? Over the years, certain songs come in and out of the set, while others are always played -- the essentials. I think there are three more songs which should be essential to any America concert (given enough time): "Sergeant Darkness", "Survival", and "Young Moon". Just another late night thought... :)

john

It's also hot and humid here on the east coast, but it's going to be a lot coooooooler!!! tomorrow night (saturday) up in the Catskills of New York. Pinch me, I must be dreaming, seeing America twice in two months.

Hi Robyn and Friends. I always figured that Gerry's "Thank You Daisy" was a symbolic gesture regarding three things: The Woman (Real or Imaginary) who inspired this fantastic song, a somewhat superstitious Good Luck thing, and/or a subliminal way of saying HELLO to us FANS who have heard Gerry make that proclamation after each performance of "Daisy Jane". Any Live performance would not be complete for me if they skipped "Daisy", I would truly be bummed to the max! Hope everyone is keeping it cool! This humidity is a killer! Have a Great weekend! Teetee

thanks for your help!

I noticed Gerry always says it too. I wonder if it isn't out of habit? When the song was new, invariably at the end of it, some nubile girl would come and place a bouquet of daisies at the foot of the stage. Gerry, being the gentleman that he is, would thank her, calling her Daisy. I could be way off base her, but it wouldn't be the first time, not the last.

Looking forward to reading all your wonderful reviews! I am living vicariously through you all, stuck here in HUMID 100+ weather in the San Fernando Valley!

First of all, "Here" is the playlist in order with selected comments on some songs from last night's concert at Rockfest in Cadott, Wi.:
1.Riverside - great opening song
2.Ventura Highway
3.You Can Do Magic - absolutely magical! During this song, the Rockfest grounds was buzzed by some low flying older military aircraft. Gerry identified the type of aircraft it was, thus showing his upbringing as a military brat.
4.Don't Cross the River
5.Daisy Jane - thank you Daisy; thank you Gerry
6.Mirror to Mirror - nice to hear a song from Hourglass
7.I Need You - Michael on Keyboards
8.Wednesday Morning - actually Thursday evening
9.Wheels are Turning - the story of my trip to and from Cadott; summer is road construction season in Wisconsin
10.Tin Man - Once again, Michael on Keyboards
11.Woman Tonight - what a wonderful surprise! Gerry and Michael on keyboards;Dewey on vocals.Short but slightly funky (like the original);Brad's bass parts and Willie's great drums.Very high energy; I just loved it!
12.Only in Your Heart
13.California Dreaming - this one got the crowd going
14.Lonely People - another masterfully performed Dan Peek song. The crowd loved Gerry's harmonica and piano parts. Also,
Michael on vocals. Thank you Michael.
15.Never Be Lonely - Dewey spiced this one up with some neat accents from the acoustic guitar. You have to hear to know what I mean.
16.Sandman - music to sleep by;well,not really
17.Sister Golden Hair - the crowd went wild
18.California Revisited - encore
19.Horse With No Name - Willie does the first part on bongos, then the rest with his great drum playing
I keep thinking that I'm missing a song, but I'm sure that I wrote them all down.Bear with me as I try to explain what a great experience it was to see America for the first time. Yes, Gerry said "thank you Daisy" after Daisy Jane. I say thank you America. Thank you for being the class act that you are. Thank you for one the greatest concerts that I've been a part of. But you see, it's all in a day's work for America. But to perform so flawlessly day after day, speaks volumes for the work ethic and the talents that these great musicians have.
Thank you Gerry,Dewey,Michael,Brad and Willie

to Woodz! According to the list his birthday is Sunday. Many happy returns of the day!

I see you have an aol account.... I've heard that in some chatrooms, using aol, you can't see your text. But then again, Howard has an aol account so, it's a mystery.

Hi Johnny,

Homecoming very good choice!!!! Have a wonderful "Holiday" & a safe trip.
Take care, Joanne

Ken, are you talking about the chat box on thursdays?
Just type your message in the box and hit enter!!!
Simple as that! :0)

who can tell me- when i write my text, how do i click to make it appear?

It's nice of the boys to let Michael sing, too. Has anyone noticed that everytime Gerry sings Daisy Jane, he always says, "Thank you, Daisy." ?

I can't think of better compainons! To me "Homecoming" is a practically perfect album.

RE--the Levi jacket-- What do you mean wore, I still wear mine ( ok, I am not a guy, but does that count?)

Have a great time at your reunion Johnny.

AMERICA will be attending my 25th year high school reunion in Dallas tomorrow! Well....sort of! Each classmate is asked to bring a piece of 70's memorabilia. I'm taking the Homecoming album cover with me and my rough-looking two pocket Levi's denim jacket that so many of us guys wore during my senior year...just like Dan and Gerry on the album cover. High school reunions are suppose to be happy times so it's appropriate to have "The Guys" there! In person would be great but I'm sure they have better plans scheduled. (LOL)

Been gone for about a week and the only disc I took with me was Bodden Town. I've given it a few dozen good listenings and I have to say I think this album is awesome. Dan's voice has never sounded better. I really like where he is musically.

It's hard to say which song I like best, but I've got to say that when Dan gets together with Marvin and Gentry, the results are magical. The PEACE album to me is one of the best I've heard in a long long time. And the three songs they do on Bodden Town are phenomenal.

Howard thought Little Darling reminded him of a George Harrison song. I can't hear Heartland without swearing I'm listening to Neil Young's Harvest Moon.

Personally, I wish there were a few more all-out rockers like Call On Me and Revolving Door on PEACE. But that's not a complaint, just wishful thinking.

All in all, I really like Bodden Town. It's a friendly place.

KevinS.

I'd like to add to what Michelle said about Michael Woods. Yes, he really does enjoy himself on stage from what I've seen. And to think, he gets paid, too! He graciously posed with me for a photo and put his arm around me like I was his long-time buddy. A great guy, he is!!

well, let's see..busy schedule...Wings re-runs..nap...pain pill..soup..popsicle..Wings re-runs...yah..I can probably be there. ;)

Anyone planning to be in the chatroom for the Thursday night chat? On some Thursdays I go in and it's empty or just about.
8 p.m. est?

Right you are John! I have never seen a recorded version of that one. When I first heard that song, I went to the Library (Big surprise, huh) and looked up Norman Bel-Geddes, 20's and 30' Renaissance Man. He wrote a few books that were pretty interesting- the best being his autobiography "Miracle in the Evening" BTW, he is also the father of "Miss Ellie" --Barbara Bel-Geddes--go figure.
So when are we going to see this wonderful song reappear?

In less than an hour I will be taking about a 4-1/2 hour drive to Cadott just like Joe Knight took to Myrtle Beach yesterday. The Rockfest at Cadott has a new stage. The weather looks to be good,but hot. Misquitoes in that part of Wisconsin tend to be the size of sparrows at this time of the year. I'm looking forward to a great show from the guys. I hope that they got a lot of rest on the trip from Myrtle Beach.

Hi Pete,
Yes, just 2 more days till we see 'the guys'. FTI is in a remote area surrounded by the Catskill Mtns. Alot of other things to see. Like Howe Caverns, Catskill Game Farm. Real neat stuff especailly if you have kids. See ya then.
Maureen.

America concert at Friar Tuck this Saturday. Should be a great concert and will let all know how it went. People tell me that Friar Tuck is a beautifull resort area and America will be playing in a night club setting.

John - When do you find time to sleep?

This is something totally out of left field, and although this has been discussed before, I wanna know...

WHERE'S NORMAN?!?!?!

I would love to hear an original concert recording from the late '70s that featured this song, or else perhaps America ought to finally record it for their next album.

Just a little late-night musing.

john

Hi!

Doesn't seem like two weeks since I attended the America concert in Bowie, MD. truthsaint wrote a good review, so I won't repeat it. Suffice to say, it was a great show.

My two favorite parts, when Dewey & Gerry took a bow for a well-deserved award, and the encore, Horse With No Name, performed with "the rest of America"...their young children...very nicely done. (Pages and Wheels Are Turning sounded terrific, thanks guys) Michael Woods was great fun to watch...he was obviously enjoying himself!

I know the heat, humidity, and insects were annoying, but you guys come on back to Maryland anytime.....

Michelle

Ken, thanks for the info. Sounds like a dream come true for you
both. Keep making music, we love it!!!!!!!!

Now, ever since "Bodden Town" came out and heard "Little Darlin'"
something has been nudging at me ever since it came out.
And yesterday it came to me. Doesn't "Little Darlin'" and
George Harrison's "Here Comes The Sun" sound very familiar.
Does Dan like George's music or was he inspired by this song,
or just a coincidence. ????
Howard L

HOWARD, GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. BRIEFLY, IF POSSIBLE, WE WERE TALKING WITH "A & R" AT BENSON RECORDS IN NASHVILLE, WHEN DAN'S ENGINEER CAME INTO THE OFFICE. THEY HAD JUST FINISHED 'ELECTOVOICE'. WE TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE LONGTIME AMERICA FANS. THE A & R GUY ASKED IF DAN WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PRODUCING A DEMO FOR US. I GOT A CALL A FEW DAYS LATER SAYING "YES". YOU CAN IMAGINE MY JUBILATION. 2 WEEKS LATER, WE WERE OUTSIDE ON MUSIC ROW EATING A SANDWICH WITH DAN PEEK. A MONTH LATER, WE RECORDED "I WILL NOT BE SILENT" AT DAN'S. WE HIT IT OFF REAL WELL. HE AND HIS WIFE, CATHERINE, WERE- AND ARE, THE MOST GRACIOUS PEOPLE YOU COULD HOPE TO MEET. HE USED THE MUSIC TRAX AND RE-DID THE VOCALS ON HIS NEXT ALBUM "CROSSOVER".

WE HAVE BEEN GETTING TOGETHER (WHEN POSSIBLE) EVER SINCE. MOST OF WHAT IS ON OUR 2 CD'S WAS DONE ON A QUICK WEEKEND. SOME DAY I WOULD LIKE TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT RECORDING "THE PERFECT RECORD". A TOUR OF SOME SORT WOULD BE NICE TOO- CANT DRAG DAN OFF THAT DARN ISLAND! OF COURSE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE HIM BACK WITH DEWEY AND GERRY FOR SOME SORT OF A REUNION. WE'LL SEE!

O YEAH, THE DISTORTION IS DAN'S GRETCH GUITAR, WITH DIGITAL EFFECTS.
PEACE-ken

ANyone have any luck reaching KSAN with my question? Thanks!

OK guys the big day has arrived !!!! Getting ready to walk out the door for the 4 1/2 hour drive to to the beach to see Gerry and Dewey and co again!!!!!! If I get any good photos this time I will send them to Steve again.........OH BOY!!!!!! joe K
**** Also great to hear from you Ken. I have a CD by Peace and you guys are really good. I am now a fan of peace as well as America. You should talk Dan into a little touring.My wife Terry and I would love to see you guys in concert......Joe Knight

Ken, once again welcome to the chat board and real nice to have you. Questions for you. When did you first meet Dan???
and when did musical interests spark to start recording together.
Also, on the 2nd Peace CD, that's some wild distortion you guys
use, what is it???

Thanks Maggie for the info on the September 5 concert. I'll verify it with Morey Management and then get it posted with the other concerts.

I'll be in Reno, too. I look forwarding to meeting lots of you.

my beautiful and spellworthy wife says it's SEBASTIAN - not SEBASTIEN. my best guess is, she's wwwwright

I'll be there for sure....anyone else?
Erin :o)

Steve...thanks for the KSAN rebroadcast. Both the San Jose & San Francisco concerts were great. I couldn't go (just started a new job and both began in the afternoon) but I sent another faction in my place...namely Mom, who was delighted to be waved to by Ger and Dew.

Ger mentioned (and it is printed in my California Automobile Association monthly magazine, too) a September 5 date. Details: Lake Tahoe Summer Music Festival - Lake Tahoe, CA. September 5. Call 530-583-3101 for details.

Ger gave a great radio interview for KSAN prior to the July 8 concert where he mentioned venturahighway.com, as well as the other hardworking sites/fans.

BTW...who's going to Reno/Sparks run this year?

Steve- I tried that address AND to send to them from their web page. No dice. I get a message saying their server is not responding. It might be the heat out here effecting transmissions ( it's over 106 in L.A.-Misery factor is 130,so who knows).

I am persistant, if nothing else. I will keep trying, or I might call their 888 number!

Take care.

Ken, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us. We're glad to have you join the "Chat Folder throng" and look forward to reading your future posts. Welcome to you, too, Jen (and have a great birthday!). --Steve

Johnny and Robyn, are you trying to send the mail message to Skott using the reply address on his e-mail messages or are you trying using the KSAN e-mail address? I believe it will work if you use the KSAN address (ksan@ksan.com). Give it another shot and see what happens.

HI, MY NAME IS KEN MARVIN. I AM A HUMBLE MEMBER OF "PEACE". SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT DAN PEEK, FORMER "AMERICA" MEMBER, WRITES AND RECORDS WITH US- (depending on his mood)-joke
I WANTED TO COMMENT ON HOW MUCH I ENJOY CHECKING THE AMERICA CHAT PAGE DAILY. GERRY, DEWEY, & DAN CERTAINLY HAVE "RAISED" SOME GREAT FANS OVER THE YEARS. YOU ALL STILL SEEM TO HAVE THE SAME "LOVE" FOR THE AMERICA SOUND I FIRST HEARD AS A TEENAGER SOME ????? YEARS AGO. I SAW THEM IN ABOUT 1976 IN KENTUCKY. JOHN SEBASTIEN OPENED. WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT- AS THEY WERE COMING ONSTAGE- SOMEONE FELL. THERE WAS MUCH LAUGHTER! (TRUST ME, I WAS CLOSE) DAN DOESN'T REMEMBER WHO FELL- IMAGINE THAT.

I AM SOMEWHAT NEW TO THE "COMPUTER THING", AND HAVE JUST DISCOVERED THIS PAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE GERRY ON HIS 'COUNTRY ALL-STARS' EVENT WITH THE SONG "HOPE". I SAID YEARS AGO THAT HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE WRITER, AND THERE IS NO GREATER PROOF THAN WHEN "YOUR" SONG IS "COVERED" BY ANOTHER ARTIST. DID YOU KNOW HE PLAYED ON DAN FOGELBERG'S 2ND ALBUM- "SOUVENIERS"?

SINCE I HAVEN'T COMMENTED BEFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HOW MUCH I LIKE "HOURGLASS" & "HUMAN NATURE". WILL COMMENT MORE LATER. LONG LIVE AMERICA. KEN MARVIN - PEACE

Thanks for trying, Johnny! I thought it was just my Etch-a-sketch working it's usual wonders!

Greetings on behalf of everybody from the chat folder!

john

P.S. Don't by shy in front of us loonies!

I sent an e-mail message to Skott of KSAN asking about a possible CD/cassette of AMERICA's webcast performance from the other day. Like Robyn, my message was returned to me as undeliverable. Robyn, I tried.

Since my e-mail was created by the fine folks at Etch-a-Sketch, I have been unable to e-mail KSAN. Can someone else ask my question, regarding any possible plans to release the concert in CD form? Thanks!

Brandi Chastain said it best "Temporary Insanity!" roflmho

Jessica - thank you so much!!! You are such a sweetheart! This birthday is turning out to be my best ever, and you've just made it even more special. From the bottom of my heart - thank you.

I just wanted to greet my good friend Jen from NY a Happy Birthday! She's shy about posting and is a lurker here in the folder - a nice and very loyal one at that. She's been to several shows of America lately and she was caught by the camera during the Tower Records show. Jen, I wish you more America shows in the future and more great fun watching them.

As for that female answer: well, not having done that before, I can't speak for those ladies. I did scream myself hoarse when I watched my first America show back in 1992. I know that's as distant as Pluto from the sun, but.... Maybe that's how they express themselves? And as JohnC. said, America just simply attracts a very different crowd from Poison.

Greetings from Roma!
I'm Francesco Lucarelli and I'm currently working on a book about CSN&Y. A section will be dedicated to concert dates, so I would like to know if there's anyone who remembers details of concerts where the
bill was shared by America and any member of CSN.
I know for sure Stills & America toured together in 1986.

Any detail like: date, venue, city
would be MUCH appreciated you can email me
lucarelli.f@flashnet.it)

Thank you,
Francesco

I meant America has "class", not anything against you. I suppose why women go hormonal over certain groups is fair game on this chat folder. It seems pretty straightforward, though. Other groups attempt to be outrageous. Dewey and Gerry just like to record great music, play it for their fans, and go home to their families just like we do at the end of the day (or tour). They may not have bizarre stories to serve as material for rockumentaries like other groups. No deaths, overdoses, incestual love affairs, illegitimate children, arrests, guitar-bashing, radical politics, car crashes, brawls, gossip, nudity, rat-eating, temper tantrums, entourages, constant break-ups and reunions, flashy lifestyles, celebrity marriages, angry songs, be-ins, drunkenness, shootings, or anything else that gets you a ticket on one of these shows. Just great music. Sure, they could write about America's teenage stardom, or Dan's Christian revival, or their ups and downs with the record industry. But there's nothing shocking -- and I think it's the shock value that these women you speak of are in it for.

john

Perhaps the word "class" comes into play somewhere...

john

Sunday night I'm watching T.V. and not much was on so "I started clickin around" and I put it on VH-1. They got their 1 hour special on the group "Poison". Not being much of a metal head I watched it anyway. Watching most of the show I'm trying to figure out why a good number of females at concerts are taking their tops off, well first I'm thinking why are they blurring out the females breast (is it ok to type breast on this chat folder?) then I'm thinking why are they taking their tops off. LADIES!!! why are they doing this? I'm sure it wasn't the music, maybe it was the wild hair styles, LADIES!!!! please help me out.

Never mind....I found it...!!!

W

Allright....call me a dummy...but I've been all around the KSAN website and cannot find how to connect to the recorded America concert...somebody help???

Wayne

...not uncommon for THEM to.

Robyn, like Jeff, I received a message from Skott with KSAN after I sent them a thank you note for having "The Guys" on. You could ask him about a possible release of the performance. Skott could tell you right away, I'd think. It would be a surprise to me if they do, but you said it's not uncommon for they to. See Jimnak's message #7412 for the e-mail address.

...e-mailed KSAN about the concert and got a nice reply from Skott Bennett. ...Says next time I'm in town to stop by the station and pick up a bumper sticker. The last time I was in San Francisco was 1978 on my way to Travis a.f.b. to catch a plane to Diego Garcia.
I may just have him send one through the mail. jeff brink

No need to thank me. I was so glad KSAN decided to do it. I wasn't able to get the webcast on my computer (not enough power, wimpy modem), but I'm glad some of you were able to view it. I was in the front row in SJ the day before, so all was not lost. I'll try to write up a review of that show tonight. I agree with Robyn (and others who have voiced this)-it would be great to have a live CD from this tour. It's time for a new one, particularly with the new material from Human Nature.

I've talked America up so much in my office that my supervisor decided to spend her 50th birthday in Reno and will be going to the 7/23 show. I told her about the party at Planet Hollywood the next day, so maybe she'll go to that as well. Wish it were me...oh well. I still have the Mid-State Fair and Coach House shows to look forward to. I've been VERY fortunate this summer to be able to get to so many concerts. Making up for all those "lost" years.

Do you suppose they are planning to releas a CD of the show. I hope so! This tour is awesome and having it captured forever on CD would be terrific!

Thanks again to Virginia for informing us about the live webcast of AMERICA from San Fran. Was able to view it live and enjoyed watching it again yesterday and today.

I would love to hear Gerry sing Harrison's " I need you" "said you had a thing or 2 to tell me" you know which one right? & for dewey I think I wouldn't mind hearing him do " Blackbird" ?? you know I was listening to "REVOLVER" last night & all I can say is What a killer album. I must have played it thru & thru about 5 times. I just LOVE "Dr. Robert" which is on the Parlaphone london release. See ya...JOYCE HALL---:)

I think "In My Life" would be beautifully handled by both guys. I can't decide whose voice would be better, so how about close harmony?

I also think Dewey would put a nice spin on Ocotpus'Garden.

Ksan@ksan.com is the e-mail address.

Just a thought:
Hope everyone can e-mail KSAN from their Web site & thank them & encourage them to have AMERICA back. That was great it was in a major metropolitan city like SF. The exposure in SF & the Internet broadcast is very good for AMERICA & their latest & greatest release HUMAN NATURE. AMERICA as pioneers.

Hi everyone! It is a beautiful day here in Rockville, Connecticut! The sun is shining, the air is clear and the humidity has dissapated (Thank God!). I just wanted to share a special thought with my friends here on the Chat Folder. Last night on Connecticut Public Television they debut a show entitled "Hot Summer Nights". I don't want to burst CPTV's bubble, but that title was used for a short-lived Country variety show that was on in '91 or '92. Anyway the premiere show was a live performance by one of our local faves Aztec Two-Step. They were in great form and their performance just reminded me that too often truly talented people get lost in the blur of commercialism. As America Fans we can attest to that. The "Two-Step" (Rex Fowler & Neil Shulman) seemed right at home in front of the camera and the studio audience. You folks may remember songs like "Baking", "Going On Saturday", "Cosmos Lady"(Very America-esque) and "On The Road". Seeing this program brought me back to 1979 in New Haven at the New Haven Colliseum when Aztec Two-Step opened up for America. What A Show!!! When Dewey & Gerry came out they both acknowledged Aztec Two-Step by complimenting their performance. I believe Dewey said "Let's hear a big round of applause for Aztec Two-Step! They were great! I always watch them in the wings because they're one of our favorite opening acts". It WAS a magical night. Maybe it would be a great Show-Biz move to book a tour of all these '70's Folk/Rock/Pop Artists together on a nostalgic, Lilith Fair-type of concert package. Aztec Two-Step, Steve Forbert, Phoebe Snow, England Dan & John Ford Coley, Dan Fogelberg, Batdorf & Rodney, Ian Matthews, and our heroes, AMERICA. There are so many others to add to the bill but names escape me right now. Hmmm, interesting though! Hey Johnny, good idea...There are so many BEATLES Tunes that they could do! I would love to here Dewey And Gerry harmonize on "If I Fell". WOW-that would be so cool! Also, "I'll Follow The Sun" and "We Can Work It Out". I think Gerry would do won ders singing "I Will" and Dewey would sound great doing "You're Gonna Lose That Girl" with Gerry and special guests The Raspberries backing him up. Now that's a dream band for me!!! The possibilities ARE ENDLESS!!! Great food for thought! Howdy Rob!!! I promise to pick up the new Dan Peek because I'm sure that if you give it a thumbs up, then it must be great! Dan is great anyway, I know! I'll be sure to get a copy in the next few weeks! Gotta go...nice chatting with ya...BuhBye..TeeTee(The Other Double T).

What's on my CD player right now? The "new" Dan Peek album. And I love it. It features some outstanding acoustic numbers, and a classy remake of "This Boy" by the Beatles. Steve L. and I were comparing notes and we both like the song, "Missing You". I especially like one he wrote about his wife, "Little Darlin'". The package features some original artwork from Dan too. To order this disc, call Thoughtscape Sounds. I think the number is 1-800-435-6185. I'd love to hear some reviews from other "Dan Fans".

Rob

Thanks to Steve Lowry for providing information about the recorded concert. ..."These web pages we consume".

A couple of years ago John Corbett made Heard available with some rare tracks from the early days of America. His latest venture has been to compile covers of America songs and put them all on a single CD which he has titled Honored. He wanted to call it Tribute but that didn't start with an "H" so he went with Honored. I've been listening to Volume 1 of this collection and it has been extremely enjoyable. The quality of the recording is superior and it's fun to listen to other artists' interpretations of these America songs that we're all familiar with. I'll try to get some sound clips out in the near future so you can listen to the songs. If any of you are interested in getting the CD, John is making it available to America fans for $15 (to cover his costs). Just send him a mail message at ucorbj00@uswest.net and he'll let you know how to pick up the CD. Thanks John!

P.S. Volume 2 should be coming out shortly with even more songs. I'll let you know when it's available.

Thanks for letting us know Steve. Thanks for all your efforts !
By the way is this a little like someone attempting to tune in to a TV show in it's begining stages say in the 40's ? AMERICA on the cutting edge. HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA's latest & greatest release on CD.

You can still listen to the July 8th KSAN concert by going to http://www.broadcast.com/radio/CLASSIC_ROCK/KSAN/CONCERT.STM. It says it requires a 45 Kbps connection but I was able to listen to it with a 33.6K modem with only occasional pauses (it would do much better with a 56K modem I'm sure). The broadcast is split into 4 clips but the actual concert doesn't begin until Clip 3 (so skip the first 2). I hope that many of you will be able to listen to it now!

Although I haven't bought Dan's "Bodden Town", from the snippets, I like "Little Darlin'" and the Beatles "This Boy" best. When I first heard "What It Means", I thought I was listening to The Byrds. It, too, sounds great.

If Dewey and Gerry were to ever cover a Beatles song for their next CD, which would you like to hear them sing? I would like to hear Dewey sing "Yesterday" and "Hey Jude". I would like to hear Gerry sing, "Penny Lane". "Barstow" reminds me of "Penny Lane" somewhat so I think it would be a great match.

Yeah, I agree with you on the "in his head" and "Nylon Curtain" points! I think my posts on the subject just prove that I too, need to lighten up! I used to let things just slide ("after all the 'celebs' in those articles and I run in different circles, what difference does it make to me" kind of attitude) but in my old age I've become tired of seeing people get OVERINFLATED and SELF ABSORBED just because they have a gift and can use it in public.....they're NO different from us excepting the fact that they got lucky! Sometimes I just want to slap some of them....rofl.

Power to the People....

TkH

GOOD one!!! (C;
Dom is my Favorite Guy!!!!! rofl!

TerryT does it again! Great thought there, Double T. You and only you!

To my AMERICA friends, Shayne and Tom T, I guess Billy Joel's comment strikes a raw nerve with me because of this reason and I know it sounds really corny but it's how I really feel: Having listened to Dewey and Gerry (and Dan) since 1972, these guys are like family to me because of all the joy their music has given me. When someone criticizes my family member, I can't help but be offended. I told you it was corny, but that's how I really feel. Tom, I know you were just the messenger. Although I didn't like the content of the message, I'm glad you passed it on to us.

We had all the fire power we could muster with our iMac, still no sight or sound of the concert. Again, I l o v e these computers. steve l., thanks for the concert review.

I too think the brilliance in the lyrics of Tinman and other Dewey Bunnel songs lies not in the meaning of the words rather it is in the surreal images they conjure in the mind - as many of you have already stated. The songs reflect the magic of the times in which they were written and help bring back memories from those times.

I too am a big fan of Don Henley's lyrics and a lesser extent Billy Joel's ,however, you can't spend all your time thinking about lost romance, suicide and the decline of steel towns. Dewey's lyrics are almost unique in the way they bring a fun, colourful imaginary world to life
which is free of many of the mundane problems of life.

Hi everybody! I'm at my Internet Class and we're now in the hands-on part. Naturally, I go to my favorite site - here!

I missed the KSAN concert! Well, it was around early morning here, I think... Anyway, thanks for the review, guys. As for Mr. Joel, well he's wrong to say those he said. But other than that, let's not waste time on him.

cheers!
wouldn't have said it any differently, if they were my very own words!

...OZ never did give nothin' to the piano man
that he didn't, didn't already think he had...

...another plug for Mary Coppin if I may..(www.marycoppin.com).....catch her at the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival Acoustic Showcase in Hillsdale New York on Friday July 23rd and at the Sierra Music Festval in Bear Valley California July 30th,31st, and August 1st.....Thanks :-)...(I promise not to do this to often)....

I guess i too was a "bit over the top" long week, stressed out and a bit slap happy.... sorry to any I offended.

Welcome back Janice!

Thanx Shayne! Everything stated in your post was everything I was trying to say. I know I came off really "over-the-top", perhaps it was because I DO respect Mr. Joel's abilities and I couldn't believe he sunk to such an unprofessional level. His singing, piano playing and his lyrical approach is truly great; but I could not keep silent about his pompous, self-serving negativity. I must say that it IS great to hear what others here have to say about it. It's Dewey's originality that I find creatively refreshing. And lest we not forget Gerry's melodic sense as well. Together they make a great team. I guess I LOVE AMERICA! See Ya TeeTee

just propped up in a chair here in GA..thanks for the thoughts and prayers, funny e-mail cards...i've said it before..you guys are the best. i love america and their fans. all the best, janice

I'm a big fan of Billy Joel's music. I've always felt that his lyrical talents are rivaled only by Don Henley. I find it hard to believe that everyone is getting so worked up over his comments. After all, AMERICA was never known for their lyrical expressions. They have even admitted to inserting certain words into songs for rhyming purposes.

It's unfortunate for true AMERICA fans that BJ used "Tinman" for his criticism when there are songs out today that make "Tinman" appear to be deeper than Shakespeare. However, it is quite impressive that he chose to use an AMERICA song to prove his point. It proves that after 25 years, the song is still in his head. Not bad at all.

I agree that it would be beneath most people to belittle someone elses writing. I would hate to hear Gerry or Dewey say someting along the lines of "Have you heard "Cold Spring Harbor"? Man, that sucks!". But then again, no one said that Billy Joel was subtle (or respectful).

Just my $.02

Shayne

BTW, I remember back in the early 80's when "The Nylon Curtain" came out... Billy Joel complained that "Rolling Stone" was always so critical of him. Interesting.

Or if you prefer...

Dewey= Dom Perignon, full of complexity
Billy= Gallo, good around the house, but not for company!

ok I suppose I shouldn't really slam Billy Joel. I used to listen to him and still do from time to time. I do not, however own any of his albums, nor am I planning to purchase any in the foreseeable future. He really has gotten too full of himself for me!

Does anyone know: can you tape off of RealPlayer?

Maureen, I have the free version of the RealAudio player and I know for a fact that it doesn't allow the broadcasts to be recorded. I think (but I'm not sure) that the RealAudio G2-Plus (i.e., not free) player might have recording capability. If someone out there has that player maybe they can enlighten us. If it does have recording capability, that would be a good reason to buy it.

Hi all,
Our PC's here at work don't have any sound, so I went over to a friend of mines office, but I had to load the RealPlayer which took 35 minutes and by the time I got into KSAN it was 4:00 EST. I guess I missed it, too. One of my sister lives just north of San Fran and I had called her to tape it. Haven't heard from her as of yet.

Did any one else tape it?
Does anyone know: can you tape off of RealPlayer?
Hope you can help. And thanks.
Maureen.

Dewey=Waterlillies
Joel=Dogs Playing Pocker.....

Ok, ok, I'm resting it.....but I just COULDN'T resist the temptation too....rofl After all I'm JUST a frustrated housewife .

Yeah, it's just God's cosmic joke!!!!! I think he reads the folder too! lololololol

Politically Incorrect? My kinda guy!!!!!

(c;

Thanks for the info, I may have to pick that one up!!!!!

Hi to everyone,I also tryed for over an hour and couldn't see the concert-when I would click on broadcast.com it would say this program has not started yet,did anyone on the east coast see it?????? Thanks for any info.
Take care,Joanne

There was much anticipation in our house that we 'd be able to catch the concert on the other side of the Pacific . We checked the night before that we could get KSAN . We rose at 4.45 am and got the radio working but , alas , despite 90 minutes of effort on this cold winter morning , we were unable to get the concert . We felt such disappointment to be so close , yet so far.

Hello everyone,I am shoked and stunned that Billy Joel has had a dig at Deweys lyrics,but after all Dewey is the the master craftsman when it comes to songwriting.Indeed its as if Dewey is painting a vast landscape in glorious colour taking the listener on a journey to a another dimension swirling majesticly in every direction,even Salvador Dali would nodding his head in approval,it appers Mr.Joel certainly remembers Tin Man from 74.Tin Man renders Mr.Joel's entire output desperately dull !!!

After what I wrote last night, wouldn't you guess who was on "Behind The Music"? Figures.

john

AMERICA always on the cutting edge ! Over time & w/the advent of broadband technologies, the Internet will provide further competition to the traditional television broadcast stations, pure live streaming video. You may know that AMERICA was one of the leaders when they released Concert in Central Park on Pioneer Laser disk, in the early 80's, early adopters for sure. AMERICA FOREVER !
AMERICA's latest & greatest is HUMAN NATURE on Oxygen Records. Advantage AMERICA !!!!

It's just one week until America's show at the Chippewa Valley Rockfest in Cadott,Wi. They are playing at the front end of a four day long music festival. When I checked out Rockfest's website, it said that America played there last year at the start of it as well. I wonder if any of the fans were there last year. Even though I am part of the "over 40" group and a veteran of many concerts in more than 25 years, this will be my first America concert. I am getting very anxious! I also wonder if any other fans in the chat folder plan on being there. America is one of four groups to play that day; fortunately it is scheduled for a 6:30 P.M. start time. The Rockfest is sort of in a remote location;it's well over a four hour drive for me. But,many of the fans are used to driving some distance to see their favorite band. Anyhow,if anyone else is planning to go,please let me know. I'd like to meet some of the other fans out there

Thanks for the review, Steve.Wish I could have logged onto it.
John

I was one of the fortunate few who got to hang out in the glorious
sunshine at the Yerba Buena gardens in SF earlier this afternoon to
enjoy the show in person. I listened to America extensively while
my musical tastes were developing, and remember growing up with the
first few and then the late 70's - early 80's albums. This was the first time that I've seen them live, and it was LOADS of fun today!
I now have to rush out and buy all the albums from "Silent Letter" though "Perspective" (which I am glad to see have been issued on CD - when did this happen? - when I checked a couple of years or so ago, I couldn't locate them) and also dust off my older CD's and give them a spin.

Later!

Hey Honey & You People,

That's great news about Beckley/Lamm/Wilson. I liked "Watching The Time Go By" from the Lamm CD the first time out, but with repeated listenings its sounding even better. COOL TUNE!

Peace,
Joe B

P.S. There are a couple of fine Carl songs on one of the Beach Boys mediocre 80's albums, "L.A. (Light Album)". "Full Sail" and "Goin' South" are real gems, worth having if you can find the CD on sale.

Steve, Will you be posting the numbers when the listener count is in? I understand that people had problems logging on, due to volumne perhaps?

I didn't know they were going to give a listener count. That would be interesting to know. There were a couple of times that I got disconnected because of "network congestion" but I was able to reconnect within a minute or two. I missed half of Riverside and half of Everyone I Meet Is From California but I got to hear everything else. The quality wasn't the best, but it was fun to listen and watch the concert since I couldn't be there.

I wondered the same thing myself. L.A. radio stations put out "live from..." discs ALL THE TIME. any chance KSAN will tap into this idea? Steve, Will you be posting the numbers when the listener count is in? I understand that people had problems logging on, due to volumne perhaps? One can only HOPE!

AAAARRRRRGGGGG. My Realplayer didn't work. I can't believe I missed it. Did anyone tape it by chance?

Shayne

I can't believe I missed that....thanks for the great review! Hopefully they'll do it again sometime...?? Only two more weeks until the Nugget!!!
Erin :o)

Hey! How about "Our Guys" on the live concert that just concluded? Great show! Wish the camera person would have shot a close-up of Gerry while singing "Wednesday Morning" instead of the audience, though. I enjoyed it a lot!!!

Hi Everyone! I just finished listening to America on the World Wide Web. KSAN 107.7 radio in the Bay Area broadcast this afternoon's free concert over the Internet so that those of us who couldn't attend in person could watch and listen to it. Here's a review of the concert.

The KSAN personalities came out first and were introduced and a few minutes the guys came out and started a long set of music. Here's the playlist with some comments intermingled.

1. Riverside
2. Ventura Highway
3. You Can Do Magic
Gerry: "Hi to everyone on the Internet. This is being broadcast worldwide and we're trying to break the record set by Victoria's Secret. We're going to play all of the oldies that we can remember and a bunch of songs from our new CD, Human Nature. This is the earliest concert I think we've ever done, except for Willie who hasn't gone to bed yet and it's his latest."
4. Don't Cross The River (sung by Gerry)
Dewey: "We graduated in 1969 and we've been doing this ever since. Gerry writes the love songs and ballads and here's one of them."
5. Daisy Jane
Dewey: "Now we're going back to our first album when we were unplugged before it was cool to be unplugged. That's also when we won the best new artist of the year and we're still celebrating. We're getting all of the mileage we can out of it."
6. I Need You
Gerry: "Hi to Pete Leonardo. Here's three in a row from Human Nature."
7. Wednesday Morning
8. Pages
9. Wheels Are Turning
10. Tin Man
Gerry: "Here's a few more from the 'Oh I forgot they did that one' collection."
11. Woman Tonight
12. Only In Your Heart
Dewey: "That was Wood-z on guitar. He's from California and here's a song about California."
13. California Dreamin'
Gerry: "I can't imagine anyone would be lonely out here, but that's the title of this song so this is for all the lonely people."
14. Lonely People (sung by Dewey)
Gerry: "Meet the rookie of our band playing with us for the last 19 years from Hollywood, California, Bradley Warren Palmer. From the rookie to the veteran on the drums with us for the last 26 years (he can't get a real job), say hello to Wild Will Leacox. He hasn't slept. He's sporting that here today, gone tomorrow, substitute teacher look."
15. Never Be Lonely
16. Sandman (with that great acoustic intro)
17. Sister Golden Hair
(Encore)
18. Everyone I Meet Is From California
19. Horse With No Name

I hope that many of you got to enjoy it as I did.

Kinky Friedman is a country singer who writes terrificly funny mysteries. anyway I think they are funny. Be warned however, Kinky is extremely Politically Incorrect, if you know what I mean. He goes beyond irrreverant and sometimes stains the boundaries of good taste.

Who is Billy Joel?

There's NO WAY that guy could have ridden that horse, he's swimming in my pool.......(oh, yeah, it's just a book....lololol. Sorry....(C= )
Was it a good book?

Hear HEAR, Brother Corbett! Isn't all this "revisionist history" just like progaganda only "non-political"? I guess I must have been Lenin or Marx in one of my "past" lives.....lol......Power to the PEOPLE! (C;

Just a thought, Isn't Billy trying to be a "Classical" musician? Maybe his snipe at Popular music (at DEWEY!) was really an attempt to distance himself from the kind of pop stuff HE was doing. His loss.

I just finished reading Kinky Friedman's new mystery "A Blast from the Past" at one point, some one asks him where he has been and he replies " I don't know. I've been riding in the desert on a horse with no legs" Comments, anyone?

Yes,the Carl Wilson solo albums are great as well as his concert
performance. Man had great talent. He will be surely missed!

I got my copy of Bodden Town yesterday and this morning
gave it a listen on the way to work. I don't have a fave yet.
But every song is a winner on that cd. Production is excellent.
Voices, instruments shine through...classic Dan Peek.
Definitely inspired by the cayman islands. As I listen to it
more, I'll review it more. Bye for now

I don't think Billy Joel's a bad guy. But I think when anybody reaches the elite of their profession like Billy Joel has, they tend to take on some of those elite attitudes. Let's face it, rock revisionists are painting Billy Joel as one of the greatest artists of the '70s, when the truth was that by the time Billy Joel had broken through the "Piano Man" typecast, America already had a string of classic songs under their belts. But then, rock critics love Billy's work while at the same they take great pleasure in outdoing each other with wicked insults of America's songs. Whether they write books about the 500 worst albums of all time, or talk about what was wrong with pop music, America would always be on the list somewhere.

Billy has been the toast of rock journalists and insiders for years, and with it brings a certain "refinement" of taste and opinion. The musical elite has always felt that if a song doesn't try to lecture, or rip you out of your seat and toss you on your head, then it's not worth your time. America has made great music for the sake of making great music, and some people just can't accept that for what it is. Perhaps America may never make it to the Hall of Fame, the Sidewalk of Fame, or even VH1's "Behind The Music," but then again those are just the opinions of those few who decide those things. The real testament is the millions of fans who bought America's albums and saw their shows, and the loyal legions which still do so a quarter century later. For some people, America WAS the '70s. And that's what counts.

john

I listened to Dan's Bodden Town a couple of times last night and I've listened to it several times today. I agree that it takes a couple of listens to get all of the songs to grow on you but there's not a bad song on it. My biggest gripe is that the song titles are inside of the CD cover which you have to take out and open up to see. Why not put the titles on the back of the CD or the inside front like every other CD? Oh well, it's a small drawback at best.

I'm very pleased with the album and enjoy the harmonies and the guitar work. Eddy, I noticed the same thing about the low end and I had to turn the bass down on my speakers as well. At first I thought it was a poor quality recording, but when I played it on my more expensive sound equipment, it sounded much better.

My favorite song today (it may change tomorrow) is "Missing You (Chelsea's Song)". The acoustic guitar on that song is incredible as is its production. It could easily fit on either one of America's first two albums.

Those of you who don't have any of the Peace CD's yet will get a taste of their sound on "What It Means" which was written by Marvin and Gentry. It fits in very nicely with the Peek-written songs on the CD.

I think that's enough of a review for now. I'll let someone else talk about the other songs.

Although I liked Piano Man, I have never had the inclination to buy any of his music or pay to see him in concert. In fact Piano Man is the only song he has ever done that I liked. There was something about him that I didn't like. I couldn't put my finger on why, I just didn't like him . Now I know why....Joe Knight

Got my copy today, my fave track (that I loved right away!) would have to be "Missing You" the rest is still growing on me, (I'm giving it a 2nd listen right now) is it me, or is there alot of low end on this CD? I had to turn the bass down abit on the EQ, it does sound good, I like alot of lowend, just never had to ajust it that far.
Well, all for now, now I have to find the new Robert Lamm CD!

Just wanted to share a few thoughts on Dans new CD. Sounds like
everybody has been recieving their copy....This Cd is gonna take some repeated listenings. I've gone through it a couple of times now.
some of the songs I like,some I don't. "bodden town"(the song) is
starting to grow on me,but I initially didn't care for it. The remake of
the Beatles "this boy" is one of the highlights of this disk--great vocal
harmonies here. There is also a Christian-oriented song for those who
were wondering if he would add anything like that to this disk. Again,
I need to hear it more,but those are some initial comments. I'd like to
hear feedback,positive or negative

Folks...it has arrived. The new Dan Peek album "Bodden Town".

I think it's excellent. It's rich in acoustics. There's a beautiful remake of the Beatles' tune "This Boy". And for those drawn to Dan's faithful inspiration, you will not be disappointed either. My particular favorite on the album is one that he wrote about his wife, "Little Darlin". This album is available from Thoughtscape Sounds. It should not be missed! If you've been fortunate enough to get a hold of it, please tell me what you think. For some of us who have gotten to know Dan a little more personally, the album reflects the quality of the guy.

Rob G.

I just found out that Beckley/Lamm/Wilson is scheduled for a fall release on Chicago records. Thought you might like to know. Glad you liked the Carl Wilson albums.

Hey Alice & You People,

To the best of my memory, the original version of "Lullaby" on both vinyl 45 and 33 was the shortened, edited one. I remember being happily surprised by rhe slightly longer song on "Encore".

Peace
Joe B

P.S. Cool to hear Lamm, Wilson and Beckley singing a great Beckley/Wilson song. I hope we get to hear the rest of the project someday (along with the already-released "Without Her").

I noticed a note on the lyrics to this song that it was redone for the "Encore" CD. Does anyone else but me remember hearing the extended version of this song when "Perspective" was released? When I heard it on "Encore" I remember feeling happy that now I had that version too, since I already knew it existed.

Anyone?

Alice

For some reason this project of Gerry's has piqued my curiosity. 50 seconds of a woman's voice- now I want to know everything about her! So much so that her voice was in a dream of mine last night. That lovely wistful voice. I hope it isn't long before Gordon sends more of this project to Steve to post. Since Di is no longer living, I must assume that the "Rose, Rose" intro to Houses in White was on a tape that she sent Gerry, and what is the real story behind that? It's like reading the dust cover of a new book- you just can't wait to dig in. Looking forward to more.

Thanks for the info, Steve. I am saddened by what Gerry wrote. I know you will keep us posted as to availablitiy ( YOU ALWAYS DO :D )

Eddy, thanks for passing along the good word about VGG!!!! Now I can get a "legal" copy and listen guilt free!!!!

The July 4th concert was great, but had to be cut short on account of thunder & lighting, the set was the same as what was posted on message #7351 by truthsaint, except that they had to end it after "Tinman", we waited around for awhile & they came back out & did SGH & Horse, at least I got to WED MORNING, and it was kinda cool watching "Wheels" because as Dewey was singing "thunder in the canyon" there was thunder & lighting going off behind him, made for a nice special effect!
Afterwards while the fireworks were going off, we got to meet up w/the guys & chat, Gerry told me to tell EVERYONE on the internet "HI" he also mentioned that he has the rights to Van Go Gan now, & it should be out really soon!
Well, all for now, I will send Steve an article on the concert, & Pic's TAKE CARE!

Hi All,
I picked up the Robert Lamm Cd and was listening to it last night. It is quite good. Very jazzy. The song with Gerry/Robert/Carl is excellant. I only wish that there were more of them. It just goes to show you, with a voice like Gerry's, you can sing ANYTHING!! Highly recommend.
Maureen.

I have updated Di Farrelly's tribute page with some of the liner notes from "Heaven Is Very Beautiful." Be warned, this is going to be a real tear-jerker.

I got mine today, too. I'm almost through my first listen and ready to listen to it again. I can tell that these songs are going to grow on me ... very classic Dan.

Robyn, it's not available anywhere yet. Gordon will (most likely) continue to send me bits and pieces of the finished product until such time as Gerry and Bobby make it available. As he sends me more of the song I'll be sure to put it on the America Fans web site.

Where is this available? Anyone know?

Ken,

Nice to have have you on board the chat folder! One question I've always wanted to know -- You always list your name together with Brian's on the Peace albums, as well as the Light of The World album. As a result, I've never known which of you sing which songs, or which one of you is which on the album photos. By the way, are you guys working on a new album?

john

<< He should try some Long Island corn, it's real good this time of year!>> So are Long Island Ice teas........Maybe he should have a few & lighten up !!...Joyce---P.S. This is what I was trying to say in my last post! I don't know what happened??? Maybe I should lighten up on MY Long island ice teas!!..hahahahaha...............:)

>>All songs are gifts that ask nothing from the listener
What a beautiful thing to say!! (and so VERY true)
(c=

Well said, Mark! Billy could do well to watch Bambi again!
As thumper's Mom used to say.....
"If you don't have anything NICE to say...."
(C;

>>AND that Freedom Of Speech is a wonderful Gift! Or am I not allowed to express that either? Sorry for the bitter response.

Um, er, WHERE did you get all of THAT from? All I was grousing about was MR. JOEL'S attitude, not yours.......

I got it today and am listening to it right now! Sounds great! Classic Dan Peek!

Thanks for the unsolicited advertisement Virginia (now how much did you say I owe you??? -- LOL). You're right that I do update the America Fans web site often, almost daily. I have a "What's New" section which lists the most recent additions and I hate to bother all of you here on the chat folder so I don't always post the information here.

I'm looking forward to the KSAN 107.7 webcast concert on the 8th and I've already verified that my RealPlayer is working by listening to KSAN for a couple of hours this morning. What a great radio station. I didn't hear any America (yet) but I did hear a lot of great oldies. During that two hour block I heard no fewer than 4 advertisements for the America concerts and they were giving away VIP concert tickets to KSAN listeners. The VIP tickets come with some freebies (t-shirts, etc.) and preferred seating during the concerts. The way KSAN is promoting the concerts, they should be very well attended.

Thanks go to Steve Lowry for doing my homework for me and putting the proper link on the Fan Page for Thursday's webcast of America's concert from San Francisco. I called KSAN's promotion department and was assured that the only software we need to HEAR AND SEE the concert is Realplayer. Please make sure you have this downloaded ahead of time so you don't miss out.

For those of you who haven't already done so, check out the link to Di Farrely's Heaven is Very Beautiful, also on Steve's page. I could listen to her talk all day! What a lovely voice and accent! Looking forward to more (this was just a short intro).

I make it a point to check Steve's page every morning. If you don't, you could miss out on some good stuff. He updates often and doesn't always post the additions on the chat folder. Surf over and check it out.

Heading to San Jose via lightrail tomorrow afternoon for the 5pm concert. Supposed to be a 90 minute set. Can't wait!!

I'm a fan of Mr.Joel-but sometimes he puts his 2 feet in his mouth-maybe he should try some Long Island corn its real good this time of year.

I seen an interview of Sting on Larry King- and Larry asked him which artist he listen to- Sting said "it was very hard to listen to music because he would found fault wtih it",at that very moment I felt sadness for him-as I do
Mr.Joel.How could anyone Hate a lyric to any song,if you don't like it don't listen.All songs are gifts that ask nothing from the listener.Thanks Dewey for the gift you have given us.Tin Man forever!!!!!!!!!!!
Joanne Meyers Long Island NY

I was driving home from work on Friday, surfing the radio dial, and low and behold I happen upon an interview with Gerry! I was promoting last weekend's concert. I missed the first part of it. When I tuned in they were taking about the band's longevity. Gerry made some comments to the effect that they didn't "pay their dues" initially, due to their rapid rise to success, but that they did pay them later on, a reference to their fall from the top. The DJ played HWNN and SGH during the interview. It made for a very pleasant drive home.

While Billy Joel is a talented artist, he made his name with his bad attitude. Seems the majority of his 70s songs are filled with negativity. People with bad attitudes, many times cannot stand positive, uplifting songs/people. Of course Rolling Stone thrives on negativity. Negativity appeals to the lowest common denominator in people, since we all have a negative streak in us. The sad part is that negativity feeds on itself, into a downward spiral. All I have to say to BJ and RS is "go ahead with your own life, leave me alone" (real profound lyrics there BJ, I bet you stayed up all night thinking of that one).

BTW, did you know that America broke-up in 1985 after the commercial failures of Perspective and In Concert? Then they reunited to do Encore in 1991, and have been touring ever since! I know some of you who saw America in concert between 1985 and 1991 may take issue with this, but it MUST be true, I found it on the Rolling Stone web page's profile of America.

I don't know, looks like just an expanded version of Ventura Highway and Other Favorites to me. I have been hoping for at least a 2 CD anthology (if not a boxed set) of America with some previously unreleased songs and alternate versions for years. This doesn't look like it. But at least they are still recyling the old stuff. That must mean it is still selling, but it's hard for me to get excited about this one. I've already got all those songs on CD.

Hey, thanks a lot Virginia! I must find the time and means to be online on July 8th. I still have to figure out exactly what time will that be here in my part of the world.

I read somewhere how celebrities/artists are already booked for Millennium celebrations all over the world. Remembering how America always had a New Year show in Vegas, anybody know if there are already any line ups for the New Year? Hey, the long/new set by the guys on January 1, 2000 would be one for the books (well, my book anyway - LOL!)That would be something really fantastic and memorable,wouldn't it? Wishful thinking from one of the unfortunate people who has yet to get a concert date. Sigh, sigh, sigh....

tom t,
on the contrary, glad you enlightened us with the b. joel remarks. that's why we follow the careers of some artists- we enjoy their work, and we like to know whats "going on in their heads". now we see a little more into billy's. he'll probably apologise in a week- he'll be fine.PEACE

thanks for your welcome Howard. good to hear from you. i am enjoying the AMERICA page!

A Little over the top wouldn't you say? Sorry Folks, I couldn't get my mind to Edit from my emotions. Respectfully, Tom T.

Oh Lord Please don't let Me Be Misunderstood!!!! I am not one to put down a tremendous talent such as Billy Joel; however, I felt that Dewey deserved a compliment and America deserved support for Mr. Joel's very sharply pointed remarks. Yes I Know that he has paid his dues- Yes I know the man is truly a musical & Lyrical genius- Yes I know that he's been a victim of the "Star Making Machinery"! But this IS the AMERICA CHAT FOLDER, Right? Sometimes Friends,we tend to get into a debate when a debate isn't required. I was reporting what was stated in a magazine article- not giving my opinion. I Wholeheartedly agree that Rolling Stone isn't the magazine it used to be, but it still remains that I felt it was newsworthy and appropriate to relay back to the folks that I thought would appreciate a show of support for Dewey and Gerry. Yes I've seen Billy Joel Three times in concert. In fact I live in a part of the country that embraced him as a popular talent before he recorded his career defining L.P."The Stranger". So please if the tone of my posting was harsh, I apologize but I still stand behind the important fact that "Tin Man" is a great song in it's own right AND that Freedom Of Speech is a wonderful Gift! Or am I not allowed to express that either? Sorry for the bitter response...TeeTee...Oh well back to work...I Hope Everyone's HOLIDAY was Great!!!

In this day and age, it's a sin for musicians to knock one another.
Like all musicians, you should compliment each other. Maybe
Billy Joel was misquoted and maybe he has too much of a grudge
against not one, but other musicians as well. Look what he's been
through for the past 30 years!!!!!!!

Welcome Kmar (Ken), your work has been wonderful on the Peace
albums. Can't wait to hear you on Dan's new CD "Bodden Town."
Your comments and opinions are welcome on this board. Again, welcome.
Regards, Howard L

Ode to Billy Joe:
The compositions of one DEWEY BUNNELL cannot generally be interpreted in the literal sense, such as a bj song. DEWEY'S material comes from his feelings, many times visual feelings, they may contain some abstractness. One must do some synthesis of DEWEY's songs & the places he takes you to may be very subjective to the individual. This is part of the magic of a DEWEY song. He doesn't throw literal english out there, like powdered sugar, ready for quick consumption. It's a much higher form of being, his songs last so much longer & may mean different things w/the passing of time. Just think about HORSE W/NO NAME; you don't think the song is really about a horsey ride thru the desert; do you bj ? TIN MAN, RAINBOW SONG, even TOWN & COUNTRY are examples. Even when he does write about a very real African trip he took, the result is OLOOLOLO. DEWEY's work is miles above bj's, reaching the inner subconscousness of many humans.

Looking on the positive side of what Billy Joel said I can think of two things.

One: that record companies are asking him for songs like Dewey's. (Hey, why don't they just ask Dewey?)

Two: of all the songs that are rattling around in his head, the one song he thought of was an America song. Having read a number of interviews on Billy Joel, I know he's a huge fan of the Beatles. Perhaps he just forgot about some of their deep, meaningful lyrics like Obladee, Oblada life goes on. Or I am the eggman, I am the walrus, coo-coo, ca-choo. Or the one that inspires me to count every time I hear it: Number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine. Lyrics that were so "dumb" they've become pop icons.

Billy Joel has been screwed over a whole bunch by past managers, past record executives, past supermodel wives. He has a right to be bitter. Maybe they just caught him on a bad day. Or maybe he's just experiencing a bad case of soap suds green like bubbles.

KevinS.

when an artist begins to criticize the work of another, he/she is in danger of thinking much too highly of his/her self. whether music or mud-wrestling. hopefully the reporter mis-quoted mr. joel. doesn't matter though, it's a great song.

ken- the PEACE band

Regarding the lyrics to "Tin Man", isn't that called artistic license? I'm sure we can find the same thing in some of Billy Joel's songs if we bothered to look: however, it's not worth the time in my opinion. For that matter, we can include the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. To me, the true measure of the man is in this question: Would Billy Joel come out and greet his fans and sign autographs after a performance like Dewey and Gerry do? I don't know for sure but I really, really doubt it.

Virginia, that's cool news about the webcast! It's perfect timing, too. That's my lunch hour!

And HEY, Tin Man kicks Movin' Out's bloated surban butt anyday.....lol (C;

To be honest, I don't like Billy Joel. Never did. I really didn't like his comments, either. I figure if you don't like it, don't listen. BUT it shouldn't GIVE YOU THE RIGHT to diss.....Yeah, yeah, the first amendment gives you the RIGHT to "say" what you want, but MANNERS of the cosmic order should make one as a "leading entertainer" (thus able to "sway" delicate and moldable minds) THINK TWICE about it. The old chestnut "one should not throw stones at GLASS HOUSES" comes to mind...lol. There IS such a thing as being TOO mundane with lyrics, also......Does anyone notice a "Rolling Stone" pattern here?
Or is it just me.....
Just practicing my 1st amendment right to freedoms of speech....lol
TkH

Kevin,
I found that cd too. I had never heard some of the songs before, but have listened to it non stop (at home, car and work) since I bought it about a month ago. It was reasonably priced also. The best 10.99 I ever spent. It has a the best live version of I need you and Ventura Highway I have ever heard. When Gerry counts off at the begining of Ventura Highway I get chills every time.

As I understand it, this webcast is going to be audio AND video on KSAN's website. Once again, it will be this Thursday, July 8th, at noon Pacific time. The website address is www.ksan.com. I'll post any other details when I find out more. I'll call the station tomorrow.

Virginias posting concerning the live radio concert on KSAN was great news! I live in the eastern time zone (Ohio) ....so it looks like I'm going to be leaving work an hour early come Thursday.

jeff brink

Howdy! I know we "United As Friends Of AMERICA" don't like to acknowledge negative jibes aimed at our favorite singer/songwriters; however, I don't know if it has been discussed since I'm not on-line as much as I used to be. In the most recent "Rolling Stone" there is an interview with Billy Joel where he really disses our pal Dewey and the song "Tin Man". He says (To paraphrase)"...the record company would like me to compose songs with more esoteric lyrics like..'Oz Didn't give nothin' to the Tin Man/ That he didn't, didn't already have'. God I hate songs with dumb words like that" Forgive me- I know that isn't the exact quote, but he was extremely nasty about it. No he didn't say specifics, but it still was negative. Yes we live in a free country (Happy 4th) but I feel he was really off on this one. He SHOULD be pointing out dumb lyrics like " I want Nookie/ give me your cookie..." YUCK- now critics are raving about another pretentious alternative band(Limp Bizkit) like they're the new Beatles. Sorry Mr. Joel You ARE one of the finest songwriters of this century but it's time for entertainers to start really pointing out who really does lack talent and start respecting the creative ones who really DO care about their craft!!! And please, just allow me this chance to vent without any senseless rebuttal because I DO understand that for every lame-duck celebrity there are some who are truly worthy of all the credit they get. I'm just sick and tired of the majority of the Rap Artists and Alternative Rock Bands that worry more about their bank accounts than what they're are preaching about. In other words, If you talk the talk, then walk the walk. AND furthermore, Mr. Joel since you haven't had a hit yourself in quite a long time maybe you should consider doing a re-make of "Tin Man". Heck, us AMERICA Fan's may like it, buy it, and then see you in concert(again). Sorry for the rant...nuff said...Happy Holiday to ALL!!! TeeTee

For all you fans who can't get enough of America, and especially for the fans who can't get to a concert on this tour- GREAT NEWS! KSAN radio, who is sponsoring the July 7th & 8th concerts, is going to webcast the Thursday concert LIVE from San Francisco. Log on to their website Thursday, July 8th at noon Pacific time. The address is www.ksan.com. According to the advertisements on the radio, this will be the first live webcast of a concert in the SF Bay area.

Well, a couple people (my wife & I) will be celebrating independence day w/AMERICA, we're going to see them in Duluth, MN. CAN'T WAIT!!!

Happy 4th of July everyone!

With all due apologies to the Boston Pops, America should be the act we all should be listening to during July 4th weekend. Our boys were
supberb in their performance in Bowie, Maryland tonight. The set:
Riverside
Ventura Highway
You Can Do Magic
Don't Cross The River
Daisy Jane
I Need You
Wednesday Morning
Pages
Wheels Are Turning
Tin Man
Woman Tonight
Only In Your Heart
California Dreamin'
Lonely People
Never Be Lonely
Sandman
Sister Golden Hair, and encore
Horse with No Name

First, the opening act was Chuck Negron, former lead of 3 Dog night
who was seriously rocking the house, doing many Dog songs, and a few others. Really good show, maybe more on him tomorrow. The crowd was into him, I'd say more than they were for America (sorry to say).
Before Chuck Negron was some local group fronted by a local disc jockey at the local oldies station "Stevie And the Satellites" who performed about 6 song parodies. Boys, don't quit your day jobs.

The entire concert started at 6 p.m. in 96 degree weather and very high humidity. By the time America came to the stage, they were dripping wet with sweat, and insects flying around. Yet they did an
extremely wonderful show, as if there could be any doubt. My friend Frosty Paws took me to the show, and we rather agreed Gerry seemed just a touch off tonight-maybe a summer cold , or laryngitis? Dewey
was really on his game. The set was sorta short- 18 songs in just over an hour, while Negron probably did an hour and a half set. The crowd was mostly 40s and 50s ish people, and we were treated to a very nice fireworks show after the concert. The crowd was hard to judge, maybe 4000 at this minor league baseball stadium. Frosty met Michelle who posts messages.

We were happy and surprised to hear the 3 songs from Human Nature, and NOT FAMT or Moment 2 Moment.

My last comment for tonight (it's 1 a.m. east coast), is that they did not talk much between songs tonight. Again certainly due to the oppressive humidity. More later and I'll be interested in the other comments that come up. Happy 4th, all.

Kevin,
Thanks, that is wonderful, a definite must have. AMERICA's Capitol years produced some outstanding material & really served as the basis for there success as a duet. Those songs you mentioned are absolutely some of their best work up to that time. It was really the Capitol years that solidified my obsession w/AMERICA. HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA's latest & greatest release on Oxygen Records.

Yes John I agree & it definitely applies to DEWEY BUNNELL's compositions, perhaps more so. DEWEY's use of lyrics & music to invoke feelings & visual images is most certainly open to wide interpretation, dependant on the individual listener. RAINBOW SONG, WINDWAVE, VENTURA HIGHWAY, HORSE W/NO NAME just a sample of a few good examples. AMERICA is truly the people's band, connected to those things that everyday people can relate to. HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA's latest & greatest release on Oxygen records.

In case I forget, or don't get online tomorrow... have a great 4th everyone south of the border. (Send some sunshine, wouldya!)

John from the "still raining" Sunshine Coast.

Jim,

That's what makes America's lyrics so special. The images are vivid, and and the emotions can be quite strong. But often times, these images and feelings aren't connected with a specific name or event, but rather linked to flow-of-consciousness lyrics which let you interpret those lyrics in a way which is meaningful to you personally. Sister Golden Hair is perhaps one of the best examples of this style of writing. The lines about being so "damned depressed" or "will you love me just a little, just enough to show you care" are striking in how we can all relate to them, but the characters and events around which these lines are constructed are vague enough for us to fill in the blanks. That's just another example of America's songwriting magic.

john

Just in time for the Fourth of July.

I was in the record store today picking up the new Robert Lamm CD "In My Head" with the Gerry Beckley written song "Watching The Time Go By" (with vocals by Robert Lamm, Gerry Beckley and Carl Wilson) and I found an America CD I'd never seen before. It's sort of the best of America on the Capitol Records days.

It's called "America 2CDs." And it's released by Plantinum Disc Corporation, copyright 1999, a division of EMI. Of course on the cover the record company did something Dewey said he and Gerry and Dan had always resisted doing. Using American flag references. The cover has the black and white shot of Gerry and Dewey from the back of Silent Letter, with a huge red, white and blue American flag superimposed over them. And below that it says: Ventura Highway, I Need You, You Can Do Magic, One In A Million.

Here's what's on Disc One:
1. You Can Do Magic
2. You Could've Been The One
3. Right Before Your Eyes
4. Don't Let Me Be Lonely
5. 5th Avenue
6. 1960
7. All Around
8. The Border
9. I Need You (Live)

Disc Two:
1. Ventura Highway (Live)
2. Only Game In Town
3. Cast The Spirit
4. Coastline
5. Fallin' Off The World
6. She's A Runaway
7. I Don't Believe In Miracles
8. One In A Million
9. All My Life

There are no liner notes. Just 4 songs from Silent Letter, 4 from Alibi, 2 from View From the Ground, 4 from Your Move, 2 from Perspective, 2 from In Concert.

Seeing that it has a copyright 1999, this must be a fairly new release. I don't know if anyone else has seen it. Steve, if you'd like, I can scan the cover when I get into my office on Tuesday and send it to you. Just let me know what format you need it in.

KevinS.

fyi:
GERRY BECKLEY once said, publicly, in sort of an apologetic manner, that SISTER GOLDEN HAIR was not quite a true story in his life from a literal sense. But hey those conceptual feelings are so real, the world connnected to it & AMERICA had a no.1 hit in 1975 w/it. Only GERRY can compose songs like that, a beautiful 12 string composition. HUMAN NATURE is AMERICA's latest & greatest, as released by Oxygen Records.

JohnC., I found it rather "off" to be singing about SGH myself so I made my own version. Mr. Fair-haired, Green-eyed Guy. No harm meant to the great song, I just wanted to make the lyrics sound "true" for me when I sing it. Like most of the band's songs, SGH has a lot of meanings to it but only one that the writer means. You can only guess at that exact meaning/story. And that's why it's great.

Hey, I like Luca/Luka too! I think it's also about a silent cry for help from the abused.

And belated Happy Canada Day to fellow fans from there.

The version the guys are currently doing live is pretty hot too! I agree with the thought that they should release a live version of this tour!

Got my Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver cd today with his version of "Don't cross the river". I like it! As long as I can remember I always thought that song would be good played in the bluegrass style.

However, Americas version is and will remain my favorite.

jeff brink

John for answering my question. I agree Brother Golden Hair would have been ridiculous! As for decoding the song any further, I think I will pass. I take this one at face value.

Johnny. Thanks for the Luka info. Never saw the video. I have a great live version that was recorded at the late lamenteted KSCA Music Hall. I love that song.

I bought an LP by The Seekers at a garage/yard/tag sale last weekend. Their cover of "California Dreamin'" was pretty mundane...nothing like Dewey and Gerry's great version.

What I meant about Jill Olsen's version is that it does sound funny to have a female sing about a Sister Golden Hair that she "just can't live without." Who knows what the lyrics REALLY mean, but it sounds somewhat funny when you think about it. But I can't blame her for taking on the song as is. Would a "Brother Golden Hair" make any more sense?

john

P.S. I'm a big fan of Suzanne Vega, and from what I understand (and I haven't seen the song's video), it seems to be a song about abuse, either from a spouse or a parent. (The lyrics include "THEY only hit you until you cry," so perhaps it refers to parents.) I think her point wasn't necessarily who was doing the abusing, but the embarrassment and shame that the abused person feels.

Don't worry... I haven't figured out exactly what the lyrics mean, either. It was more of a joking remark than anything else. As is true with most early America songs, it means pretty much what you want to. A few vivid images here, some lines about romance there -- it's up to you to fill in the blanks. If anyone DOES know what the lyrics mean, I'd be the first to congratulate them!

john

Just to add a bit more to what Steve Lowry posted earlier....According
to the current issue of "Ice Magazine",here's what "Ice cubes" says
on page 3....."Chicago Keyboardist Robert Lamm releases 'In my head' on Mystic Music July 6th. Making appearances on the album are PHOEBE SNOW,AMERICA'S GERRY BECKLEY and the late
CARL WILSON." I don't have anything further to add,but as we will
probably be carrying this CD,I'll check it out and let fans know what
to expect. Its obviously on a small label,so I'm not sure how good the
distribution will be.

According to the video, Luca was played by a boy and the song is about child abuse, right?

The artist is Suzanne Vega. I really like her. I always thought Luka WAS a girl's name. Not like Lucca Brazzi from the Godfather. It's one of those ambidexterous names, like----Robyn! Now, a nonAmerica question. Is Luka about child abuse or spousal abuse? I keep going back and forth on that one.

Me too, Robyn. Maybe John means that although Jill Olson is a female, she's singing it as if she were a guy. It would be like the song, "Luca" sung by Suzy or Susan Vega? I don't know the exact title of her song and her exact name but it's something similar. The song begins with, "My name is Luca....". That's my guess.

In a word, fence-sitting. He can't seem to make up his mind. He's in love but commitment shy. But he can't stop thinking about the girl. Sort of in the same vein of the classic Dylan (?) work, "Mama you've been on my mind" That's my take anyway. I know I am probably setting myself up here, but what the heck--Johnny, what's your take on it?

Robyn, what is "Sister Golden Hair" all about in your opinion?

Ok, I know I am opening myself up to a few zings here, but in reading John Corbett's liner notes, he makes reference in Sister Golden Hair to "those who have figured out what the song is really about". What does he mean? I feel a little denser than usual on that. Can anyone enlighten me? (No zaps from the Peanut Gallery, please, Kevin!)

I have 2 extra SECOND ROW tickets for sale for America's show this sat, july 3rd at Bowie Stadium in Bowie, MD (halfway between wash., dc and annapolis, md-about 10 miles outside DC). Please e-mail me at drjk@erols.com.

I spoke with the kind folks at Thoughtscape Sounds this morning and they informed me that Dan Peek's latest release, Bodden Town, is available and now shipping. I ordered my copy and look forward to receiving it early next week.

I've also heard that Robert Lamm's new CD will be released on Tuesday and that it contains a Beckley/Lamm/Wilson track. If I find out anything more about it, I'll be sure to let you all know.

Yes ShariL, Sgt Darkness is Gerry at his best, but my favorite from the album is Sarah. Probably the finest love-and-loss songs ever!

Happy Canada Day to our friends in the North!

And a Happy Canada Day to all of the other "Northerners" on the board.

Good to hear from you, Karen. Last time I heard about you, you were sick. I hope you're okay now. On Oxygen: my gratitude for making H.N. possible in the first place. I think Karen and Oxygen are doing what they can to make the CD a success. Maybe we fans just need an assurance of that through constant info on what's happening. Maybe now's the best time to do that with Karen back?

Welcome back, Robyn! Sgt.D is very good, but I think even better when performed live - stronger, more passionate(maybe that's why it's in the concert playlist in the first place).

And in case I can't drop by later - Happy 4th to all of you in the U.S.!!!

I will be at the Friar tuck Inn concert, two weeks from this Saturday. I think it will be just America playing so I'm hoping they will play longer. I haven't heard of any warm up band. They say the place is really nice, Get the A plan which is right up in the front.

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